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SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CO

SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CO Q3 FY2024 earnings call

October 24, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

EPS · actual vs est

$0.15 / $0.00Beat +3650.0%

Revenue · actual vs est

$6.87B / $6.78BBeat +1.3%
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Summary

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Management highlights

Bob Jordan introduced the Southwest Even Better transformational plan, stressing the importance of execution. Andrew Watterson emphasized the airline's industry-leading operational performance in the third quarter with best on-time performance and completion factor. Tammy Romo discussed cost performance, fleet plans including opportunistic fleet monetization, and balance sheet strength. Strategic initiatives progress: working on premium cabin configurations approval, Getaways by Southwest product with first three direct lodging partners signed, and narrowing launch date of partnership with Icelandair. Cost and efficiency initiatives: expected headcount reduction of 2,000 by year end, improved turn times starting in November, and red-eye service to begin next February.

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Segment performance

Southwest Airlines reported third quarter 2024 operating revenues of nearly $7 billion, with a unit revenue increase of 2.8% compared to the previous year. CASM-X (cost per available seat mile - adjusted) increased 11.6% year-over-year in the third quarter. For the fourth quarter, CASM-X is expected to face cost pressure primarily from new labor contracts, over staffing, and lower capacity, estimated to be in the range of 11% to 13% year-over-year. Revenue contribution breakdown by product segment wasn't provided by specific percentage, but overall revenue and cost performance were highlighted.

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Guidance

For 2027, Southwest aims for ROIC (return on invested capital) of 15% or higher even without fleet strategy benefits. Core operation initiatives are sized to contribute roughly $3.5 billion of cumulative incremental EBIT by 2027, and with fleet strategy, total incremental EBIT is $4 billion. In the second half of 2024, fourth quarter RASM (revenue per available seat mile) is expected to be up in the range of 3.5% to 5.5% year-over-year, considering a headwind from Hurricane Milton. Guidance for 2025 and beyond is uncertain due to Boeing delivery issues and other factors, with no specific guidance yet provided for 2025 cost and fleet-related metrics.

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Risks

• Uncertainty in Boeing aircraft deliveries which could impact fleet plans and capacity. • Labor cost increases and over staffing leading to cost pressure. • Weather events like hurricanes causing operational disruptions and revenue impact. • Market uncertainty affecting the expected gains from fleet monetization strategy.

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Q&A highlights

Q: Stephen Trent asked about CASM for 2025 and sale leaseback gains.

A: Bob Jordan stated it's early to guide on 2025 CASM as there's uncertainty with Boeing, and Tammy Romo mentioned flexibility in sale leasebacks.

Q: Savi Syth inquired about revenue trends, especially managed corporate side.

A: Andrew Watterson said managed business travel had a dip during Hurricane Milton but rebounded, and revenue trends are positive with acceleration from tactical actions.

Q: Duane Pfennigwerth asked about fleet monetization and cost trends.

A: Bob Jordan and Tammy Romo said fleet monetization could be sale-leasebacks or direct sales, and cost trends for next year are uncertain with ongoing moderation and inflation factors.

Q: Tom Fitzgerald asked about revenue management system.

A: Andrew Watterson said the system and processes have shown inflection with yield growth on strong flights.

Q: Jamie Baker asked about loyalty and premium credit card.

A: Bob Jordan and Ryan Green said there's opportunity to further monetize the Chase relationship with ongoing work on card mechanics.

Q: Dan McKenzie asked about headcount and cost initiative.

A: Bob Jordan and Andrew Watterson said they're on track to reduce headcount, working on overhead efficiencies, and there's a journey to get more efficient.

Q: Chris Stathoulopoulos asked about capacity composition and Boeing impact.

A: Bob Jordan and Andrew Watterson discussed capacity composition and the impact of Boeing strike on growth plans.

Q: Robert Silk asked about Getaways product sales channel.

A: Ryan Green said Getaways will launch mid-next year with direct lodging partners and access to other hotel inventory.

Q: Rajesh Singh asked about Boeing strike impact and Elliott deal.

A: Bob Jordan said Boeing strike could impact fleet plans and the Elliott deal was part of Board refresh with new members adding expertise.

Q: Leslie Josephs asked about MAX 7 and long-term Southwest.

A: Andrew Watterson said MAX 7 certification is ongoing with engine issues, and Bob Jordan said Southwest has a good order book with Boeing but focused on executing current transformational plan.

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Key numbers

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$0.15$0.00+3650.0%$0.38
Revenue$6.87B$6.78B+1.3%$6.53B

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