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Southwest Airlines Co.

Southwest Airlines Co. Q3 FY2025 earnings call

October 23, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2025-09

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Management highlights

• Third quarter showed strong execution with operational reliability, cost discipline, and progress on transformational initiatives. • Launched assigned extra legroom seating in July, with smooth rollout and 4-point improvement in customer Net Promoter Score. • Offered free WiFi for Rapid Rewards members, updated cabins, partnerships (e.g., Priceline, EVA Air), new vacation product (Getaways by Southwest), and announced new markets. • Brand Net Promoter Score returned to pre-policy change levels. • Operational performance remained strong despite challenges like weather and ATC constraints, with one cancellation in Dallas despite significant presence.

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Segment performance

No detailed product segment financial performance with revenue contribution % provided. Key initiatives like assigned extra legroom seating rollout, bag fee revenue outperformance, and loyalty program enhancements are driving overall performance.

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Guidance

• Fourth quarter RASM expected to be in the range of 1% to 3%. • Full year EBIT guidance $600 million to $800 million. • 2026 expects greater benefits from initiatives, including $1 billion of incremental EBIT from assigned extra legroom seating and a full year of bag fee revenue. • 2027 expects full run rate of approximately $1.5 billion from assigned extra legroom seating. • Fourth quarter CASM-X expected to be in the range of 1.5% to 2.5% on capacity growth of approximately 6%.

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Risks

• Uncertainty around government shutdown impact on demand. • Learning curve and ramp-up risk for revenue management of new initiatives like assigned extra legroom seating. • Macroeconomic uncertainty affecting demand inflection and potential further impact on EBIT guidance.

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Q&A highlights

Q: Frame up sequential improvement into fourth quarter versus September messaging, specifically on new initiatives and unit revenue.

A: Bob Jordan stated it's about 2 points of added capacity from delaying 700 retrofits to January, 2 points from not assuming further macro inflection, and tailwind from initiatives. Andrew Watterson added past government shutdowns impact travel demand differently, and Bob mentioned cost discipline as insurance for hitting EBIT guide.

Q: Stats on initiatives like connections, load factor, basic economy rollout buy-up.

A: Andrew Watterson said load factor inflected positive post-summer with enhanced connectivity, third-party channels, and basic economy rollout. Buy-up out of bottom basic is early, but mid-single-digit optional buyout increases are positive. Tom Doxey and Robert Jordan added initiatives are on track, with assigned seating extra legroom still on track despite early stage.

Q: Fourth quarter RASM guide, core RASM vs initiatives.

A: Andrew Watterson addressed confusion on math, mentioned flight credit breakage impact, bag fees as 3-point benefit, and stage engage growth as headwind. Bob Jordan and Andrew Watterson emphasized core customers responding positively to new products and loyalty program enhancements.

Q: Shareholder returns guardrails and EBIT contribution from initiatives.

A: Tom Doxey said they leave headroom within 1-2.5x leverage target and $3 billion + $1.5 billion revolver liquidity target. Robert Jordan and Tom Doxey mentioned bag fees contribution, assigned seating extra legroom value ramping up, and cost savings initiatives on track.

Q: Learning curve and tweaks for revenue management of initiatives.

A: Andrew Watterson said revenue management for basic and bags settled by mid-July, with assigned seating having a long runway and tweaks small in nature, feeling comfortable about ramp-up and value realization.

Q: Knife edge improvement in yields with assigned seating bookings.

A: Andrew Watterson said it's early in the curve, but clear customer reaction to buying assigned seats or upgraded fair products, with models trained on past sales and upgrades, but exact numbers not given due to early stage.

Q: Fuel exposure and levers to offset higher fuel.

A: Tom Doxey said West Coast exposure is around 30%, Gulf Coast around half. Robert Jordan mentioned cost discipline across the board, including fuel efficiency, automation, and operational efficiency programs as levers to offset higher fuel costs.

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