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GRAY MEDIA, INC

GRAY MEDIA, INC Q4 FY2024 earnings call

February 27, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12

EPS · actual vs est

$1.59 / $1.59Inline +0.0%

Revenue · actual vs est

$1.04B / $797.9MBeat +31.0%
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Summary

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Management highlights

  • Broadcast show premieres: Grosse Pointe Garden Society on NBC and Beyond the Gates on CBS premiered from Assembly Studios.
  • Sports: Brought Atlanta Braves games back to Gray's TV stations in Atlanta and the Southeast, and announced Memphis Grizzlies deal, expecting local sports product in 75-80 markets by end of Q1 2025.
  • Affiliation: Renewed ABC network affiliation agreement for four additional years.
  • Distribution: Investigate TV and local news live franchises expanded across broadcast, digital, and mobile platforms.
  • Debt reduction: Reduced principal debt by $520 million in 2024, refinanced debt to extend maturity, increased revolving loans, and lowered capital spending.
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Segment performance

In the fourth quarter of 2024, Gray Media achieved significant financial results. Total revenue was $1 billion, an increase of 21% from Q4 2023. Net income attributable to common stockholders was $156 million in Q4 2024, compared to a net loss of $22 million in Q4 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was $402 million in Q4 '24, up 86% from Q4 2023, driven primarily by political advertising revenue. Additionally, the company reduced its total principal debt by $520 million in 2024, exceeding the $0.5 billion goal, and finished the year with a lower leverage ratio than at the start.

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Guidance

  • Core advertising revenue: Expect Q1 2025 core advertising revenue to be down 7% to 8% compared to Q1 2024, due to political/economic uncertainty, Super Bowl impact, and Leap Day. Excluding Super Bowl and Leap Day, down 3.3% to 4.6%.
  • Expenses: Cost efficiencies expected to flow through 2/3 to 75% in Q1, with hope to keep expense growth below inflation or negative during 2025.
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Risks

  • Regulatory constraints: Local broadcasters face constraints vs tech giants, which is harmful.
  • Automobile advertising: Hesitancy due to tariffs and high interest rates impacting advertising campaigns.
  • Retransmission sub declines: Expect rate of sub declines to slow but not projecting material change in budgeting.
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Q&A highlights

Q: Around core advertising and full year growth, do you think core ads can move to growth on a full year basis?

A: Pat said yes, encouraged by second quarter pacing and improvement in challenged categories; Hilton added automobile advertising will return once they know cost of goods sold.

Q: Can you parse out Q1 expenses guide, how much cost efficiencies flowed through?

A: Jeff said 2/3 to 75% of cost efficiencies likely flow through in Q1, building from there, and they look at expenses daily.

Q: On Assembly Atlanta, updated cost and ROI?

A: Hilton said land, acquisition, building costs roughly $500 million; expects ROI to ramp up as productions build, with 70% occupancy in stages and 80 acres for future partnerships.

Q: On retransmission sub declines, how budgeting?

A: Kevin said expect rate of sub declines to slow, but internal numbers assume rate stays same, not giving full year guidance.

Q: On rebalancing network economics, context on fee decrease?

A: Jeff said larger contracts with CBS, FOX, NBC up this year, not giving full year guide yet but optimistic about rebalancing.

Q: On M&A and political/Connected TV?

A: McNamara Breland said dedicated team focusing on leveraging digital audiences for political, and Hilton said Gray is interested in M&A opportunities like swaps.

Q: On leverage goal and deregulation?

A: Jeff said taking a few years to get to 4x leverage, Kevin said big goals from Washington include relaxing market rule, SEC interest in network-affiliate relationships, and NEXTGEN TV growth.

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$1.59$1.59+0.0%$-0.24
Revenue$1.04B$797.9M+31.0%$864.0M

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