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Energy Transfer LP

Energy Transfer LP Q3 FY2024 earnings call

November 5, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

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Summary

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Management highlights

• Recently completed WTG acquisition enhances Permian operations; integration underway with projects to improve reliability. • Energy Transfer and Sunoco LP formed Permian crude oil and produced water gathering joint venture, making progress on integration and synergies. • 2024 organic growth capital expected ~$2.9 billion, with projects including Nederland Terminal expansion (scheduled mid-2025 initial phase), Mont Belvieu fractionator (expected Q4 2026), Permian processing expansions, crude asset pipeline construction, and natural gas power generation projects.

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Segment performance

For the third quarter of 2024, adjusted EBITDA details by segment:

  • NGL and Refined Products: $1.01 billion vs $1.08 billion in Q3 2023, due to Mariner East growth and NGL exports offset by lower hedged NGL inventory gains.
  • Midstream: $816 million vs $631 million in Q3 2023, driven by higher Permian Basin and Eagle Ford volumes, and Crestwood/WTG acquisitions.
  • Crude Oil: $768 million vs $706 million in Q3 2023, due to record crude throughput, exports, and Permian joint venture.
  • Interstate Natural Gas: $460 million vs $491 million in Q3 2023, with higher Panhandle/Trunkline/Gulf Run demand offset by lower IT utilization and higher expenses.
  • Intrastate Natural Gas: $329 million vs $244 million in Q3 2023, from increased pipeline optimization gains.
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Guidance

• 2024 adjusted EBITDA expected between $15.3 billion to $15.5 billion. • 2024 growth capital expenditures expected ~$2.9 billion, spent primarily in NGL and Refined Products, and Midstream segments. • Nederland Terminal expansion on schedule for mid-2025 initial phase; Mont Belvieu fractionator expected Q4 2026.

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Risks

• Uncertainties around natural gas price spreads in Texas. • Potential impact of regulatory and political changes on project approvals and operations.

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Q&A highlights

Q: Jeremy Tonet asks about natural gas demand impact and South Mississippi Pipeline A: Mackie McCrea responds on natural gas demand opportunities and South Mississippi Pipeline interest Q: Jean Ann Salisbury asks about Lake Charles LNG status A: Marshall McCrea responds on Lake Charles LNG progress Q: Manav Gupta asks about WTG integration and SUN JV A: Marshall McCrea responds on WTG integration and SUN JV progress Q: Theresa Chen asks about data center returns and competition A: Marshall McCrea responds on data center returns and competitive dynamics Q: Keith Stanley asks about Flexport LPG project and Q4 EBITDA A: Marshall McCrea and Thomas Long respond on Flexport LPG and Q4 EBITDA outlook Q: Gabe Moreen asks about processing capacity announcements A: Marshall McCrea responds on processing capacity announcements Q: Michael Blum asks about CapEx and Sabina 1 pipeline A: Dylan Bramhall and Marshall McCrea respond on CapEx and Sabina 1 pipeline Q: Zackery Van Everen asks about Permian Matterhorn and Warrior pipeline A: Marshall McCrea responds on Permian Matterhorn and Warrior pipeline Q: John Mackay asks about Texas vs interstate opportunities A: Dylan Bramhall responds on Texas vs interstate opportunities Q: John Mackay follows up on Permian NGL position A: Marshall McCrea responds on Permian NGL position Q: Closing remarks from Mackie McCrea on election impact A: Mackie McCrea comments on election impact on industry

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