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TYLER TECHNOLOGIES INC

TYLER TECHNOLOGIES INC Q4 FY2024 earnings call

February 13, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12

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Management highlights

Key points include: Cloud strategy progress with SaaS revenue growth of 23% (sixteenth consecutive quarter of 20%+ SaaS growth), transaction revenues growing nearly 21%, non-GAAP operating margin at 24.4%, free cash flow at $216M. Achieved cloud revenue inflection point in 2023. Unveiled Tyler 2030 vision in 2023. Closed Dallas data center mid-2024 and on track to close main data center by end-2025. Made progress with cloud optimization, with 106 flips of on-premises clients in Q4, total contract value up 58% y-o-y. Notable contracts include $11.4M multi-suite deal with Kenosha, WI, and $2.2M ARR deal with state of Maine. AI strategy centered on productivity, decision-making, and service delivery. Appointed Andrew Call as chief client officer, Samantha Crosby to retire, Eric Flanders as new CMO, Abby Diaz as chief administrative officer, and Bill Van Essel as chief legal officer.

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Segment performance

Total revenues for the quarter were $541.1 million, up 12.5% and organically grew 12.4%. Subscription revenues increased 21.9% and organically rose 21.8%. SaaS revenues grew 23% to $173.4 million and grew organically 22.8%. Transaction revenues grew 20.9% to $175.4 million. Non-GAAP operating margin expanded to 24.4%. Free cash flow was $216 million. Total annualized recurring revenue was approximately $1.86 billion, up 14.9%.

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Guidance

Total revenues expected between $2.30 billion and $2.34 billion (organic growth ~8.5%). Non-GAAP diluted EPS between $10.90 and $11.15. Free cash flow margin between 24% and 26%. Subscription revenues expected to grow 15%-18%, SaaS revenue 21%-24%, transaction revenues 10%-12% (merchant fees down 7%-9%). Maintenance revenue decline 4%-6%, professional services flat to down 3%, license and hardware/other down 18%-20%. R&D expense in range of $177 million to $182 million.

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Risks

Risk of wind-down of Texas payments contract impacting transaction revenue growth and margins. General risks associated with forward-looking statements and market uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from projections.

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Q&A highlights

Q: Alexei Gogolev from JPMorgan asked about Fiserv partnership and its impact on margins and partnerships with other third parties.

A: Lynn Moore responded discussing Tyler's strategy away from commoditized payments, leveraging Fiserv's technology, and how partnerships can drive higher margins.

Q: Joshua Reilly from Needham and Company asked about visibility on migrations and which product lines are accelerating migrations.

A: Brian Miller responded that migrations are broad-based, with public safety seeing rapid increase in desire to move to cloud, and there's decent visibility on flips.

Q: Ken Wong from Oppenheimer asked about cash flow strength and its impact on future years.

A: Brian Miller responded that some cash flow strength was from unusual items, but normalized cash flow margin implies continued expansion towards 2030 targets.

Q: Saket Kalia from Barclays asked about federal funding impact on state/local budgets and thoughts on Doge.

A: Brian Miller and Lynn Moore responded that federal funding is minimal at local/state levels, and Doge is seen as an opportunity for increased efficiency.

Q: Alex Zukin from Wolfe asked about demand environment, SaaS conversion, and AI impact.

A: Lynn Moore and Brian Miller responded that demand is strong due to sales execution, client flywheel, and AI is a future area for productivity but not a current big driver of cloud acceleration.

Q: Michael Turrin from CJS Securities asked about guidance philosophy and revenue line impact.

A: Brian Miller and Lynn Moore responded that guidance ranges reflect risks and opportunities, with quality revenue lines (SaaS, transactions) driving growth despite noise from Texas payments.

Q: Charles Strauzer from Prime ABCU asked about abnormally high stock comp implied in guidance.

A: Brian Miller and Lynn Moore responded that stock comp dilution is modest, related to higher stock price and normal compensation plans.

Q: Clarke Jeffries from Piper Sandler asked about margin tailwinds and long-term margin targets.

A: Lynn Moore and Brian Miller responded that they are confident in hitting 2030 targets, with current progress tracking ahead of expectations.

Q: Rob Oliver from Baird asked about cloud-optimized products progress.

A: Lynn Moore responded that progress is ahead of schedule on version consolidation and cloud optimization, with continued efforts towards synchronized cadence releases.

Q: Jonathan Ho from William Blair asked about ARPA funding impact and future agency spending confidence.

A: Lynn Moore responded that ARPA funding hasn't been a material driver, and general budget health and competitiveness are more important.

Q: Terry Tillman from Truist Security asked about Doge trickle-down and business composition shift.

A: Lynn Moore responded that Doge hasn't led to increased conversations yet, and a new state sales team is being invested in but no immediate composition shift.

Q: Mark Schappel from Capital Markets asked about priority-based budgeting use cases.

A: Lynn Moore responded that priority-based budgeting helps organizations reshift dollars based on priorities, with examples like LA County and Kansas City using the solution.

Q: Gabriela Borges from Goldman Sachs asked about Texas payments business size and impact.

A: Lynn Moore and Brian Miller responded that Texas payments business is small, not a strategic focus, and impacts are managed through strategic partnerships and focus on differentiated offerings.

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