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Trinseo Plc Q4 FY2023 earnings call

February 13, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2023-12

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Management highlights

Frank Bozich noted 2023 was challenging but they improved cost and market position, taking actions like closing a styrene facility in the Netherlands, consolidating PMMA operations, reducing working capital, refinancing debt. They advanced sustainability initiatives with a polycarbonate dissolution pilot and a PMMA depolymerization plant in Italy. Recycled content sales were up 16% year-over-year. Specialty and sustainable solutions had stable margins. 72% of sites received a Triple Zero Award. David Stasse mentioned Q4 adjusted EBITDA was below expectations, cash from operations was $149M, free cash flow $79M, working capital released, 2024 CapEx expected to be $70M, and comfortable cash and liquidity levels.

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Guidance

Frank Bozich stated Q1 profitability to be significantly higher than Q4, with adjusted EBITDA of about $40M to $50M, viewing Q1 as the low point of the year. They expect higher volumes in specialty businesses, $100M sequential benefit from restructuring and lower natural gas hedge losses, and logistics costs from the Red Sea crisis may help, with additional Europe network optimizations explored.

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Q&A highlights

Q: Frank Mitsch asked about granularity of end markets seeing volume impacts.

A: Frank Bozich said mainly in specialty business applications in Europe like automotive and building construction, with first year-over-year volume increase in January and similar order book in February but cautioned two months don't make a trend.

Q: David Begleiter asked about ramp to Q2.

A: Frank Bozich said normal seasonality in building construction, AmSty turnaround over in Q1, new business awards phasing in, and freight surcharges related to raw materials from Asia expected to be recovered in pricing beginning in Q2.

Q: David Begleiter asked about potential for cost improvement over $100M.

A: Frank Bozich and David Stasse said largest contributor was shutting styrene facilities, worsening market could help, and additional opportunities to evaluate could add to the savings.

Q: Matthew Blair asked about styrene sale process and margin improvement.

A: Frank Bozich said no imminent update, drivers for Q1 improvement included volume, restructuring, and EM business turnaround; David Stasse said natural gas hedges loss reduced in Q1.

Q: Hassan Ahmed asked about market environment and inventory/demand.

A: Frank Bozich said demand patterns changed due to consumer behavior and China capacity additions affecting the market.

Q: Laurence Alexander asked about mix effects and volume hit from destock.

A: Frank Bozich said formulated solutions rebounding first; David Stasse said hard to pinpoint volume shift from destock as it's early in the quarter

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