E.W. SCRIPPS Co
E.W. SCRIPPS Co Q4 FY2024 earnings call
March 12, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Management highlights
- Adam Symson discussed the opportunity presented by changes in Washington regarding FCC ownership rules, emphasizing easing restrictions could benefit the industry, local journalism, and shareholders. - Mentioned the company's plan to reduce debt, improve operating performance, including debt refinancing, reducing leverage ratio to 4.8 times, and progress in Scripps Networks division margin improvement. - Jason Combs detailed debt refinancing efforts, including extensions on term loans and AR securitization, and provided highlights for Local Media and Scripps Networks divisions, including Q1 guidance.
Segment performance
Local Media division: Fourth quarter revenue up 34% from year ago, with record political advertising revenue of $174 million; core advertising down 11% in Q4 2023, Local distribution revenue down 5% year-over-year; segment profit nearly $200 million vs $86 million in Q4 2023. Q1 Local Media revenue expected down high single-digit, core revenue down low to mid-single-digit, expenses up low single-digit percent. Scripps Networks division: Fourth quarter revenue $216 million, down 6% from year ago; Connected TV revenue up 16% after backing out shut-down programmatic advertising products; expenses decreased by more than 6% due to cost controls; segment profit $61 million. Q1 Scripps Networks revenue expected down mid-single-digit, expenses down mid-teens range. Other segment: Fourth quarter loss $8.3 million, Q1 expected about $22 million.
Guidance
- 2025 expected cash interest between $175 million and $185 million, cash taxes $25 million to $30 million, capital expenditures $55 million to $60 million, depreciation and amortization $150 million to $160 million. - Q1 Local Media revenue expected down high single-digit, core revenue down low to mid-single-digit, expenses up low single-digit percent. - Q1 Scripps Networks revenue expected down mid-single-digit, expenses down mid-teens range. - Networks division margins expected to improve by at least 400 to 600 basis points in 2025, trending towards high end in Q1.
Q&A highlights
Q: On FCC commentary, Gray's waiver and seller/buyer perspective; A: Adam Symson said they'll take advantage of FCC change opportunities, focused on deleveraging, and will look at all opportunities.
Q: On distribution and sub trends; A: Jason Combs said about mid-20% of subscriber base up for renewal, Q1 sub trend likely down mid-single digits.
Q: On core advertising and macro trends; A: Jason Combs said Q1 core weak due to economic uncertainty, impacting automotive and retail.
Q: On EdgeBeam Wireless; A: Adam Symson said it brings 97% U.S. TV household reach, expect to share revenue details soon.
Q: On Networks trends and local sports; A: Jason Combs said mixed bag in ad marketplace, local sports expected to contribute low single-digit growth.
Q: On debt and AR securitization; A: Jason Combs said AR securitization included in interest guide, working on near-term maturities.
Q: On 2027 debt and WNBA sports rights; A: Jason Combs couldn't provide specifics on 2027 debt, Adam Symson said working constructively on WNBA renewal.
Q: On network negotiations and cost outlook; A: Adam Symson said network relationship needs correction, Jason Combs said Scripps News shutdown saves $35 million annually.
Q: On advertising categories and live sports EBITDA; A: Jason Combs discussed auto and retail ad trends, Adam Symson said live sports deals done with discipline for value
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