RLJ Lodging Trust
RLJ Lodging Trust Q4 FY2024 earnings call
February 26, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
- 2024 Achievements: Top quartile RevPAR growth, outpaced industry; acquired Hotel Teatro in Denver; completed 6 conversions with over 10% RevPAR growth in 2024; advanced pipeline conversions in Nashville and Boston; addressed 2025 debt maturities; recycled proceeds into share repurchases; increased quarterly dividend. - Q4 Operating Performance: RevPAR 2.2% growth, driven by 2.5% ADR increase, 0.2% occupancy decline. Urban markets strong, November and December positive, January RevPAR 3.2% growth. BT, group, and leisure segments performed well. - Capital Allocation: Relaunched former Wyndham Pittsburgh, completed conversion ahead of schedule; advanced Nashville and Boston conversions; ramping conversions in multiple cities; utilized balance sheet for flexibility, addressed debt maturities, repurchased shares, increased dividend.
Segment performance
RevPAR grew by 2.2% over the prior year. Urban markets (two-thirds of portfolio) achieved 3.7% RevPAR growth in Q4; urban lifestyle hotels (40% of portfolio) had 4.5% RevPAR growth. BT segment achieved 8% revenue growth, 7% ADR increase. Group segment revenues grew 3%, 1% demand improvement, 2% ADR increase. Leisure segment revenues grew 6%, urban leisure at 8%. Out-of-room spend robust growth of 6.3%, total revenues grew 3%.
Guidance
- 2025 Outlook: Comparable RevPAR growth 1%-3%; hotel EBITDA $378M-$408M; corporate adjusted EBITDA $345M-$375M; adjusted FFO per diluted share $1.46-$1.66. Expect quarterly seasonal patterns similar to 2024; first-quarter adjusted EBITDA $74M-$77M. Anticipate transaction market improvement, but remain disciplined.
Risks
- Market Volatility: Headline volatility may persist. - Renovations Impact: Potential displacement from scheduled 2025 renovations in certain markets. - Transaction Market Uncertainty: Bid-ask spread wide, transaction market choppy. - Fire Impact: Uncertainty on long-term demand impact from events like LA fires.
Q&A highlights
Q: On 1%-3% RevPAR guidance, unpack high end and low end, risks/headwinds.
A: High end assumes macro steady, BT ahead, group stronger; low end assumes BT slower, group rate less. Risks include urban leisure softening, renovation displacement.
Q: Capital allocation priorities, stack ranking for 2025.
A: Nimble, evaluate windows, balance sheet provides optionality; continue buybacks, investments in conversions, dividend.
Q: Conversions cadence, potential acceleration.
A: Cadence of 2-3 conversions per year, right balance of capex and contracts; incremental growth catalysts through conversions.
Q: Transaction market, buyer/seller expectations.
A: Market choppy, bid-ask spread wide; small deals done, remain opportunistic, balance sheet allows flexibility.
Q: LA fires impact on hotels, expectations for rest of year.
A: LA markets benefited from fire relief, budgets not built on fire impact; improvement in conditions, not baked into broader numbers.
Q: Urban leisure vs resort leisure demand/rate.
A: Urban leisure outperforms, favorable setup for special events; San Diego lease negotiation moving favorably.
Q: Conversions stabilized returns, urban portfolio occupancy vs 2019.
A: Unlevered IRRs north of 50%; urban portfolio occupancy 94% of 2019 levels, BT and group around 90%.
Q: January commentary, market run rate.
A: January had multiple strong markets; expect every quarter positive, first quarter better than second, second half better than first.
Q: Brand companies, New York market recovery.
A: Transaction market choppy, no immediate brand sale; New York market strong, but not right time for brand sale.
Q: BT rates vs group, Bay Area outlook.
A: BT rates 15% below group, broad-based; Bay Area expected above midpoint of guidance, benefits from return to office, corporate conferences.
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