RCM TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
RCM TECHNOLOGIES, INC. Q4 FY2024 earnings call
March 13, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
- RCM Health Care closed 2024 on a high note with resumption of growth in hours, deepening school district partnerships, and a robust pipeline of new school districts and clients. K-12 growth driven by surging behavioral health services demand. Corrections clients showed strong performance in 2024 and expected further expansion in 2025.
- Life Sciences, Data and Solutions division had continued positive growth in managed service contract portfolio, Q4 revenue in line with expectations, exceeding GP and NOI targets. - HCM division exceeded quarterly quotas, secured new clients and multiyear renewals for managed service engagements. - 2025 to see shift to AI and ML tools deployment in primary markets. - Energy Services had robust performance in various areas including U.S. and European energy projects, active participation in technical associations. - Process & Industrial: RCM Thermal Kinetics launched new plant expansion program for ethanol industry, had equipment orders, and ongoing projects for lithium facility and evaporation test. - Aerospace & Defense group won business, increased headcount, and expected continued growth in 2025.
Segment performance
In the fourth quarter of 2024, for the Engineering segment, gross profit was $5.2 million compared to $6.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2023. Gross profit for fiscal 2024 was $22.5 million vs. $20.6 million in fiscal 2023. Gross margin in Q4 2024 was 19.7% vs. 27.0% in Q4 2023, and for fiscal 2024 it was 23.4% vs. 24.3% in fiscal 2023. For the IT, Life Sciences and Data Solutions segment, gross profit in Q4 2024 was $3.9 million vs. $4.5 million in Q4 2023. Gross profit for fiscal 2024 was $14.7 million vs. $16.2 million in fiscal 2023. Gross margin in Q4 2024 was 40.0% vs. 38.7% in Q4 2023, and for fiscal 2024 it was 37.5% vs. 38.2% in fiscal 2023. For the Health Care segment, gross profit in Q4 2024 was $12.5 million vs. $11.0 million in Q4 2023. Gross profit for fiscal 2024 was $42.5 million vs. $39.9 million in fiscal 2023. Gross margin in Q4 2024 was 30.0% vs. 29.8% in Q4 2023, and for fiscal 2024 it was 29.8% vs. 29.3% in fiscal 2023. School revenue in Q4 2024 was $34.9 million vs. $29.8 million in Q4 2023. Non-School revenue in Q4 2024 was $6.2 million vs. $6.9 million in Q4 2023; excluding a large long-term care group's service reduction, revenue was $5.6 million in 2024 vs. $5.5 million in Q4 2023. Trade accounts receivables DSO went from 114 in Q3 2023 to 92 in Q4 2024, with goals to get under 80 by end of fiscal 2025.
Guidance
- Goal for 2025 fiscal year is at least double-digit growth on adjusted EBITDA for all quarters. - Very optimistic about 2025 and will give more guidance as the year progresses. - Another call scheduled in May.
Risks
- In Engineering group, a significant industrial process equipment order was abruptly canceled midway through the project and Technical Publications group had significant rework on a large project with an aerospace client, causing approx $900,000 reduction in gross profit. - Self-insured medical plan had abnormally high medical costs increasing SG&A expenses by about $1.25 million. - Settled a class action lawsuit regarding California wages with added SG&A expenses of about $450,000.
Q&A highlights
Q: Was any of the extra costs realized in the tax rate?
A: The effective tax rate is 34.0%, and the normal range is expected to be 26% to 29%.
Q: Did the canceled order in Engineering have anything to do with change in administration?
A: No, it's a nuance with a particular client.
Q: Any impact from DOGE on RCM?
A: No direct major impact seen as of today, and insulated from workforce reduction blips for now.
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