Pinnacle Financial Partners, Inc.
Pinnacle Financial Partners, Inc. Q4 FY2023 earnings call
January 17, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2023-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
- Hiring and Investment: Investing in talent even during difficult times has enabled share take and balance sheet growth, contributing to revenue and earnings growth.
- Deposit and Loan Strategies: Disciplined approach to deposit pricing and growth, strong loan growth with focus on fixed-rate loan pricing.
- Credit Metrics: Credit metrics normalizing, though still below five-year median, with one non-performing credit in the process of rehabilitation.
- BHG: Supportive of BHG's credit discipline, origination volumes down but sales into bank network consistent, liquidity strong.
- Expenses: Q4 expenses in line, with a $29 million FDIC special assessment recorded, and $46 million in 2023 incentive costs, $30 million of which was incentive savings.
- Capital: Tangible book value per share at $51.38, up 14.8% YOY, with favorable capital ratios.
- Jacksonville Expansion: Hired leadership team for Jacksonville, expecting rapid build-out to a $3 billion bank in 5 years.
Segment performance
Deposits: Linked-quarter annualized average growth of 4.6% in Q4 2023, with EOP deposit rates up seven basis points. Disciplined approach to deposit pricing and growth, with end-of-year deposit outflows noted but hopeful for return. Loans: Q4 was a strong loan growth quarter with 10.7% linked-quarter annualized average loan growth. Fixed-rate loan yields on newer originations ended at 7.33%, and spread maintenance on floating/variable rate loans remained strong. NIM: Flat quarter-over-quarter, but expectation of NIM expansion in 2024. Credit: NPAs and classified assets below five-year median, net charge-offs in Q4 at 17 basis points, with one non-performing credit being rehabilitated. BHG: Q4 origination volumes less than Q3, 25% of BHG borrowers from 2021-2022 would not qualify now, sales into bank network consistent, held-for-sale inventories up $170 million, liquidity strong.
Guidance
- Deposits: High-single to low double-digit growth expected.
- BHG: Modest growth, mid-single, focus on core businesses.
- Loans and Loan Pricing: Focus on fixed-rate loan pricing to grow net interest income high-single to low-double digits.
- Expenses: Expense range $960 million to $985 million, with incentive payout dependent on earnings.
- Earnings: Aim for top quartile earnings growth, with EPS growth projected at low to mid-single digit.
Risks
- Rate Environment: Difficult operating environment affecting revenue and earnings.
- Credit Risks: Potential for credit losses if economic conditions worsen.
- BHG Risks: Volatility in BHG's performance, challenges in IPO market for fintech.
- Deposit Outflows: End-of-year deposit outflows, with need for deposits to return.
Q&A highlights
Q: Curious if we just kind of touch base on the expenses.
A: Discussion on expense components, non-personnel expense base, and IT spending.
Q: Curious on BHG and reduced losses.
A: BHG's credit loss cycle, with losses occurring in the first 30 months.
Q: On margin and rate cuts.
A: Expectations on NIM cadence, and response to rate cuts on deposits.
Q: On Jacksonville expansion and net charge-offs.
A: Expectations on Jacksonville build-out, net charge-off expectations based on economic scenario.
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