PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust
PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust Q4 FY2023 earnings call
February 1, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2023-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
• PMT had strong fourth quarter results with net income of $42 million, and annual net income in 2023 was $158 million. • In 2023, PMT invested nearly $500 million into new MSR and opportunistic investments. • The balance sheet strength is a key differentiator, with $659 million in new long-term debt issued and $450 million in debt redeemed in 2023. • CRT investments have a favorable outlook with low underlying current weighted average loan-to-value ratio and low delinquency rate. • MSR fair value decreased due to lower mortgage rates, but was partially offset by Agency MBS fair value increases and interest rate hedges. • In the fourth quarter, $17 million was invested in floating rate GSE CRT bonds, and $56 million of such bonds were sold post-quarter end as credit spreads tightened.
Segment performance
In the fourth quarter, PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust (PMT) had net income to common shareholders of $42 million, or $0.44 per diluted common share. Credit-sensitive strategies contributed $61 million in pre-tax income. Pre-tax income from organically created CRT investments in the fourth quarter totaled $42 million, including $29 million in market-driven fair value gains. Income from opportunistic investments in CAS and STACR bonds issued by the GSEs was $12.8 million in the quarter. The interest rate sensitive strategies contributed a pre-tax loss of $17 million due to fair value declines in MSRs. The correspondent production segment had $24 billion in loan acquisition volume in the fourth quarter.
Guidance
• The current run rate reflects an average $0.31 per share over the next four quarters, modestly down from prior quarter due to interest rate changes. • Expected returns on investments could improve if short-term rates decline, driving an increase in the overall run rate. • Anticipate the first quarter of 2024 to remain seasonally low before moving into spring and summer home buying season.
Risks
• Interest rate volatility can impact the fair values of interest rate sensitive strategies. • Credit spread changes can affect the returns on CRT investments. • Potential impact of Fed rate cuts on earnings and the balance sheet, such as changes in the cost of debt for interest rate sensitive strategies.
Q&A highlights
Q: On Slide 8 where the run rate potential is discussed, talk about the returns expected this quarter versus last.
A: Dan Perotti explained that the run rate declined due to compression in short-term rates affecting interest rate sensitive strategies, but expected curve normalization could improve returns for these strategies.
Q: On the credit side, provide view on CRT spreads and update on securitization program.
A: David Spector mentioned buying $17 million of CRT in the fourth quarter, selling $56 million post-quarter end as spreads tightened, and monitoring securitization but GSEs need more production first for a restart of CRT.
Q: Discuss allocation of capital in correspondence, dividend, and buybacks.
A: David Spector talked about capital allocation between credit sensitive strategies and MSR, and Dan Perotti discussed the trade-off between dividend and buybacks, stating repurchases are more attractive when share price to book ratio drops.
Q: Talk about maturities in 2024 and their impact on returns.
A: David Spector discussed refinancing CRT maturities, potential for margin call reserves, and how Fed rate cuts could impact earnings by reducing the cost of debt for interest rate sensitive strategies.
Q: Inquire about liquidity buffer and allocation to MBS and hedges.
A: Dan Perotti said liquidity has been stable, and David Spector explained MSRs are the most capital-intensive asset in the interest rate sensitive strategies.
Q: Ask about spreads on new CRT and book value change.
A: David Spector mentioned spreads on new CRT are in high single to low double digits, and book value has been stable due to the hedging program over recent quarters
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
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| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $0.44 | $0.32 | +37.5% | $-0.07 |
| Revenue | $502.6M | $97.1M | +417.6% | $3.1M |
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