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Phunware, Inc.

Phunware, Inc. Q4 FY2023 earnings call

March 12, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2023-12

EPS · actual vs est

$4.00 / $-2.00Beat +300.0%

Revenue · actual vs est

$940,000 / $2.1MMiss -55.7%
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Summary

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Management highlights

  • Reshaped the company over past 90 days: Cleaned balance sheet, reduced cash burn, stabilized financials. Shut down Lyte Technologies in November, which was substantially completed in December.
  • Software business: Focus on hospitality, healthcare, connected offices. Rightsized staff, added new customers in Miami, Hawaii, Montreal. Plan to drive software business to breakeven and profitability, enhance platform with AI and acquisitions/partnerships.
  • Patent monetization: Jury found Netflix infringed on U.S. patent 8989715, retained economic interest in future enforcement, licensing, etc. on this patent. Have 16 other issued patents and 8 pending, evaluating portfolio for monetization.
  • Digital assets: Plan to restart digital assets business. Finalize PhunCoin structure, issue PhunCoin, develop IP like global crypto passport, with U.S. patent 11829996 granted for hybrid organizational system for data management.
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Segment performance

Continuing operations: Net revenues for full year 2023 totaled $4.8 million, down from $6.5 million in prior year. Gross margin from continuing operations was approximately 34.9% compared to ~53.8% last year (prior-year margin benefited from PhunToken sale). Operating expenses from continuing operations were approximately $47.4 million this year compared to ~$27.5 million last year, inclusive of $25.8 million goodwill impairment. Excluding goodwill impairment, operating expenses from continuing operations were $21.6 million in 2023 vs $27.5 million last year. Adjusted operating expense was approximately $17.9 million in 2023 vs ~$24.3 million last year. Backlog and deferred revenue at end of quarter totaled ~$4.7 million. Discontinued operations: Loss from Lyte Technologies for 2023 was approximately $10.9 million vs $5.5 million in prior year.

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Guidance

  • Goal to drive the core software business toward breakeven and then profitability.
  • Intend to use acquisitions and strategic partnerships to expand software footprint in target markets.
  • Plan to finalize PhunCoin structure and issue PhunCoin, develop digital assets business with differentiated offerings including global crypto passport.
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Risks

  • Risks related to digital asset market uncertainties and regulatory changes.
  • Execution risks associated with restarting digital assets business and implementing strategic plans.
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Q&A highlights

Q: When you think about the Software as a Service business, where do you see the most opportunity in the three verticals? And how impactful is digital assets going to be on your 2024 P&L?

A: Most opportunity in hospitality (large resort properties), healthcare (appointments and info access), connected workspace. Digital assets impact on 2024 P&L expected to take time, but bullish on global crypto passport.

Q: How important is channel partner relationships to growth going forward? And is M&A horizontal or vertical?

A: Channel partners important (30% of pipeline), M&A targets for acceleration in hospitality and healthcare verticals.

Q: Any real changes to the way you're approaching sales on the location platform versus maybe the last regime?

A: Creating distribution leverage, investing in demand generation, cultivating internal sales force and leveraging existing distribution with complementary solutions.

Q: What are you seeing out there in terms of the sales cycle in your business?

A: Starting to see improvement, with referral programs from existing customers accelerating sales cycles, and incremental demand within existing customer base.

Q: Could you provide some color on ideal size within the different verticals and engineering/software teams' methodology for quicker implementations?

A: Ticket size likely to increase as sales strategy takes hold, engineering teams have developed methodologies to compress implementation timeframes.

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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$4.00$-2.00+300.0%$-4.00
Revenue$940,000$2.1M-55.7%$4.8M

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