LiveWire Group, Inc.
LiveWire Group, Inc. Q4 FY2024 earnings call
February 5, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
Generated 2025-02-05
Management highlights
- Product Performance: Launch of new model year 2024 Street Glide and Road Glide touring motorcycles drove growth in US Touring segment. Trimmed inventory by reducing motorcycle production wholesale.
- Brand and Experiences: Build-out of custom-built apparel capabilities, brand collaborations with Champion, digital investments with 177% increase in motorcycle paces engagements for 2025 launch, Homecoming event with over 60,000 attendees, HDRA reaching 1M riders trained.
- Marketing and Dealer Support: Launched Marketing Development Fund to drive dealer traffic, focus on aligning messages with dealer channel, continued support for dealer network.
Segment performance
HDMC
- Q4 revenue: down 47%, full year: down 15%. Operating loss in Q4: $214M, full year: $278M.
- Touring segment: near 5% growth in US, share at almost 75% in 2024, highest since 2019.
HDFS
- Q4 revenue: up 4%, full year: up 9%. Operating income in Q4: $46M, full year: $248M.
LiveWire
- Q4 revenue: down, full year: down 31%. Operating loss in Q4: $26M, full year: $110M.
- Global retail sales of electric motorcycles: up 46% YOY, US market share 65% in 50+ hp on-road EV segment.
Guidance
- HDMC: Flat retail sales in 2025, positive performance skewed to second half. Wholesale units flat to down 5%, revenue flat to down 5%, operating margin 7%-8%.
- HDFS: Operating income down 10%-15% in 2025 due to higher borrowing costs.
- LiveWire: Unit sales 1,000-1,500, operating loss $70M-$80M, cash burn reduced by 40% to $60M or less.
Risks
- Macro headwinds: Cyclicality of discretionary products, high interest rates, consumer confidence issues impacting sales.
- Tariffs: Uncertainty around tariffs, no production in Canada/Mexico, 100% US manufacturing.
- LiveWire Performance: Slow adoption of electric motorcycles affecting profitability and cash burn.
Q&A highlights
Q: Megan Clapp asked about first quarter cadence and inventory reduction.
A: Jonathan Root explained front half inventory reduction over 30%, front half wholesale down double-digit, back half up.
Q: Joe Altobello asked about Q4 margin surprise and retail outlook.
A: Karim Donnez and Jochen Zeitz discussed margin impacts from volume, manufacturing, and retail outlook with better second half performance.
Q: James Hardiman asked about margin bridge.
A: Jonathan Root explained volume, pricing, FX, mix, and OpEx factors contributing to 7%-8% margin.
Q: Robin Farley asked about motorcycle revenue and retail reference.
A: Jonathan Root said wholesale flat to down, retail flat, pricing favorable.
Q: Fred Wightman asked about dealer inventory mix.
A: Jonathan Root and Jochen Zeitz discussed improved inventory quality, surgical dealer support, and strategic pricing.
Q: Alex Perry asked about LiveWire long-term.
A: Jochen Zeitz said LiveWire is being streamlined, operating losses reduced, cash burn cut.
Q: Joe Nolan asked about international markets.
A: Jonathan Root said international markets mostly flat, some past challenges in China, Japan, Germany.
Q: Noah Zatzkin asked about HDFS health and guide.
A: Jonathan Root discussed book health, normalized youth values, and reserve adjustments.
Q: Tristan Thomas-Martin asked about HDMC margin target and HDFS seasonal change.
A: Jochen Zeitz said 15% target achievable with product launches, Jonathan Root mentioned HDFS reserve adjustments.
Q: Brandon Rolle asked about LiveWire profitability.
A: Karim Donnez and Jochen Zeitz discussed LiveWire cost reduction, contribution margin positive by year end, and commitment to the business.
Q: Jaime Katz asked about LiveWire new product.
A: Karim Donnez and Jochen Zeitz explained strategic rationale of maxi-scooter launch leveraging S2 platform and KYMCO partnership.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
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| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $-0.11 | $-0.14 | +22.0% | — |
| Revenue | $10.8M | $15.7M | -31.3% | — |
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