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Summary
Generated 2025-05-08
Management highlights
- Strategic initiatives centered around customer centricity, convenience, and asset utilization:
- Optimizing inventory and utilizing LFCs: All 26 LFCs announced last quarter are operational, completed on time and under budget, supporting precision inventory and improving in-stock levels. Achieved over 99% in-stock levels in never out SKUs, reduced inventory by 12% with 8% improvement in inventory turns.
- Grow in Pro: Pro sales improved 700 basis points year over year, driven by focus on ProShare and new partner contracts, with plans to further capitalize on share opportunity.
- Optimizing DIY omnichannel to build loyalty: Upgraded website and mobile app with enhanced service scheduling, integrated platform, and hands-free voice search.
- New transform initiatives: Building Leslie's brand with more efficient marketing programs like 'We Are Pool People' campaign. Launching enhanced pool perks loyalty program with loyalty tiers and personalization. Adding same-day delivery capabilities via agreement with Uber.
Segment performance
Sales for the second quarter were $177.1 million, down 6% year over year compared to $188.7 million in the prior year's second quarter. Pro Pool sales were down 2% year over year, Residential pool sales declined 9%, and hot tub sales increased 4% year over year. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $36 million, which represents approximately 13% of annual sales. Gross profit was $43.9 million compared with $54.3 million in the prior year, with gross margin at 24.8% vs. 28.8% prior year. SG&A was $92.3 million compared with $84.9 million in the prior year's second quarter, at 52.1% of net sales.
Guidance
- Reaffirmed full-year guidance ranges, not providing quarterly guidance. Back half of the year expected to have continued mix shift and higher labor-related expenses, with fourth quarter 2024 rebate headwind being a tailwind this year. Reduced full-year capital expenditure expectations by $5 million to $30 to $35 million.
Risks
- Weather-related factors can impact foot traffic and sales. Tariff exposure, with an annualized estimate of $10 million to $12 million in product costs, though inventory optimization efforts aim to mitigate this.
Q&A highlights
Q: Jonathan Matuszewski asked about this quarter's comp sales performance versus pool supply retail peers and market share.
A: Jason McDonald said Pro sales are gaining share due to focus on pro contracts, assortment adjustment, in-stocks, and LFCs. For DIY/residential, there are initiatives to drive change.
Q: Jonathan Matuszewski followed up on pricing, asking about strategic price increases.
A: Tony Iskander said they will only take pricing to offset tariff-impacted products, with tariffs being less than 1% of total sales.
Q: Lauren Ng asked about comp sales weakness aside from weather and underlying business fundamentals.
A: Jason McDonald mentioned conversion rate improvements due to in-stocks and team expertise, with Never Out program driving in-stocks and water test conversions.
Q: Lauren Ng followed up on inventory purchases and planning for depressed trends.
A: Jason McDonald talked about precision inventory mindset and asset utilization, while Tony Iskander added inventory optimization helps mitigate tariff impact.
Q: Steve Forbes asked about the cost optimization pillar and expense ratio framing.
A: Tony Iskander said cost optimization focuses on $5 to $10 million in indirect spend, looking at the entire asset base for continuous improvement.
Q: Steve Forbes followed up on channel mix changes.
A: Jason McDonald said it's an omnichannel mindset, leveraging stores, ecommerce, and same-day delivery.
Q: David Bellinger asked about in-stocks not reflecting in comp sales and early tests.
A: Jason McDonald said conversion rate improvements are sustainable, with LFCs providing benefits like completing sales that would have been challenging historically.
Q: David Bellinger asked about partnering with Uber and its importance.
A: Jason McDonald said it's about customer centricity and convenience, providing speed and cost savings, important for both pro and DIY.
Q: Justin Kleber asked about topline guidance and implied second half gross margin inflection.
A: Jason McDonald talked about team focus and new initiatives, while Tony Iskander mentioned rebate tailwind and key pillars contributing to confidence in achieving guidance
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $-0.25 | $-0.24 | -4.2% | $-0.17 |
| Revenue | $177.1M | $185.0M | -4.3% | $188.7M |
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