EPS · actual vs est
Revenue · actual vs est
Summary
Generated 2025-05-08
Management highlights
- First quarter results were strong with revenue, gross margin, and adjusted EBITDA above guidance range. Defense revenue was a key driver, with over 63% of total sales, up from 49% the prior year. Defense product sales grew over 50% YOY.
- Unique position in A&D with high-power laser technology from chips to full systems, supported by US manufacturing. Work on HEL-TD and Army's DEM SHORAD programs progressing. Interest in directed energy capabilities growing domestically and internationally.
- Laser sensing markets have historical performance and new opportunities, with bid activity increasing. Commercial markets remain challenging but saw some improvement in microfabrication due to stabilized Thai manufacturing. Long-term optimism in metal additive manufacturing for aerospace and defense.
- Evaluating tariff impact; no significant long-term impact expected on defense, but short-term margin variability possible. Shifted commercial laser production from Shanghai to US and Thailand to manage tariff risk.
Segment performance
Aerospace and defense revenue in the first quarter of 2025 was $32.7 million, up 50.4% year over year and 8.6% sequentially. Defense revenue represented more than 63% of total sales in the quarter, up from 49% in the same quarter a year ago. Defense product sales grew more than 50% year over year. Commercial markets, including industrial and microfabrication, had first quarter revenue of $19 million, a decrease of 16.8% year over year but up 9.9% sequentially. Product revenue for the first quarter was $35.7 million, an increase of 21.5% compared to the first quarter of 2024. Development revenue was $16 million, increasing 5.4% compared to the same quarter a year ago.
Guidance
- Expect Q2 revenue to be in the range of $53 million to $59 million, with midpoint $56 million including $38 million product revenue and $18 million development revenue.
- A&D revenue expected to increase sequentially in Q2. Products gross margin in Q2 expected to be 27%-33%, development gross margin ~8%, total gross margin 19%-25%.
- Adjusted EBITDA for Q2 expected to be in the range of approximately negative $4 million to positive $1 million. Breakeven adjusted EBITDA expected with quarterly revenue $55 million to $60 million.
Risks
- Tariffs pose uncertainty; impact on commercial markets, particularly industrial fiber laser business, with potential indirect demand impact. Margin pressure possible in subsequent quarters if tariffs remain.
- Uncertainty around global trade market and its effect on overall economy and customer demand.
Q&A highlights
Q: Talk to us about the line of sight to product sales in A&D looking past Q2.
A: Scott Keeney mentioned visibility with respect to programs like HEL-TD and increasing orders/opportunities funnel.
Q: How are tariffs impacting the business, particularly in microfabrication and production in Thailand?
A: Joe Corso said tariffs disproportionately affect industrial fiber laser business, but limited impact in Q2, potential impact in Q3/Q4.
Q: What's changed to make you increasingly confident in A&D outlook?
A: Scott Keeney noted traction in US and international markets for direct energy and other applications.
Q: Address tariff-related risk for A&D?
A: Scott Keeney said it's complex, with limited exposure in A&D, but uncertainty in global economy.
Q: Update on commercial markets full-year outlook?
A: Joe Corso said commercial outlook remains same, with slight improvement in microfabric but tariffs add incremental risk.
Q: Talk about gross margin and tariff pass-through?
A: Scott Keeney said complex, with some ability to pass costs, but no specific outlook. Joe Corso said margin range widened due to tariff uncertainty.
Q: Update on funded and unfunded backlog?
A: Joe Corso said no major update, but pleased with defense business backlog execution and pipeline.
Q: Talk about gross margin expectations for mid-year?
A: Joe Corso said gross margins expected to continue expanding due to higher volumes, better mix, and continued growth in A&D.
Q: Second half outlook compared to first half?
A: Joe Corso said second half expected to be stronger than first half.
Q: Additive manufacturing business update?
A: Scott Keeney said making progress but focused on US and Europe markets with limited growth compared to other regions.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $-0.04 | $-0.18 | +77.8% | $-0.17 |
| Revenue | $51.7M | $49.8M | +3.8% | $44.5M |
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