KINDER MORGAN, INC.
KINDER MORGAN, INC. Q3 FY2024 earnings call
October 16, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09
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Summary
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Management highlights
Management Statement and Operational Highlights
- Growth Outlook: Strong natural gas demand driven by LNG exports, Mexico exports, power, and industrial growth. Internal estimate of 25 Bcf/day growth in the natural gas market over the next five years. Power demand driven by population/business migration to the South, CHIPS Act, renewables, coal conversion, and data center demand.
- Projects: Announced ~$3B South System Expansion 4 Project and GCX system expansion in Texas. Backlog increased to $5.1B from $3.8B last year. Added ~$450M of projects to backlog during the quarter.
- Financials: Q3 EPS unchanged, EBITDA up 2% YoY. Full-year EBITDA expected to grow 5%, EPS 9% vs 2023. Dividend increased 2% to $1.15 annualized. Gross margin increased 7% YoY, net income attributable to KMI $625M, EPS $0.28 (17% higher YoY).
Segment performance
Segment Performance
- Natural Gas Business Unit: Transport volumes increased 2% in the quarter vs Q3 2023. Natural gas gathering volumes were up 5% YoY, driven by Haynesville and Eagle Ford volumes (up 10% and 9% respectively). For the year, gathering volumes are expected to be 8% below 2024 plan but 5% over 2023.
- Products Pipeline Segment: Refined Products volumes were up 1% in the quarter vs Q3 2023, while Crude and Condensate volumes were down 4%. The SFPP pipeline closed a binding open season to add 2,400 barrels per day of refined petroleum products capacity, expected to be in service Q3 2025.
- Terminals Business Segment: Liquids lease capacity remained high at 95%. Jones Act tankers are 100% leased through 2024 and 97% leased in 2025 (assuming options exercised).
- CO2 Segment: Oil volumes were down 6% in the quarter vs Q3 2023, NGL volumes down 3%, and CO2 volumes up 3%. The Board approved $145 million for CO2 flood projects at SACROC and Diamond M, expected to result in peak oil production over 5,000 barrels per day.
Guidance
Guidance
- Full-year EBITDA expected to grow 5% vs 2023, EPS 9% vs 2023, though slightly below budget due to lower commodity prices and slow RNG startup.
- Expect to fund ~$2.5B per year in CapEx from cash flow, with balance sheet capacity available for additional projects. Backlog has grown from $3.8B to $5.1B, with ongoing opportunities in power, industrial, and export sectors. CapEx is roughly $2B per year, with potential to increase if strong returns are expected.
Risks
Risks
- Court Challenges: Projects like Cumberland face court challenges from anti-fossil fuel opponents, which could delay construction. However, previous court challenges have been successfully defended, and agencies are expected to vigorously defend permits.
- Commodity Volatility: Lower commodity prices and slow RNG startup have impacted budget expectations. Volatility in commodity prices could continue to affect financial performance.
Q&A highlights
Question and Answer
Q: John Mackay asks about the size of the shadow backlog relative to last year and about Mississippi Crossing and Trident.
A: Kim Dang states the opportunity set has increased vs last year, backlog grew from $3.8B to $5.1B. Sital Mody discusses Mississippi Crossing and Trident open seasons, noting they aim to get molecules to needed markets.
Q: Michael Blum inquires about CapEx trend and expected returns.
A: Kim Dang says CapEx is roughly $2B per year, with potential to increase, and returns on projects are consistent with historical targets.
Q: Theresa Chen asks about Mississippi Crossing commercial drivers and separating the products business.
A: Sital Mody talks about commercial drivers related to LNG growth and access to molecules. Kim Dang explains reasons against separating the products business due to synergies and potential dis-synergies.
Q: Zack Van Everen asks about the Cumberland project courts and GCX expansion timeline.
A: Kim Dang discusses court challenges and defense of permits. Sital Mody mentions GCX expansion timeline is conservatively 22 months with a mid-'26 in-service date.
Q: Jean Ann Salisbury asks about GCX expansion risk and storage market tailwind.
A: Sital Mody and Kim Dang discuss GCX expansion risk and the storage market tailwind, with storage rates continuing to strengthen.
Q: Neal Dingmann asks about backlog and CO2 portfolio.
A: Kim Dang and Anthony Ashley discuss backlog potential and CO2 portfolio spend, with $145M approved for CO2 flood projects.
Q: Jeremy Tonet asks about operating leverage and power demand upstream.
A: Kim Dang discusses operating leverage in gathering and transmission and potential behind-the-meter gas solutions for power demand.
Q: Keith Stanley asks about CapEx funding and court review risks.
A: Kim Dang and Rich Kinder discuss CapEx funding flexibility and strategies to address court review risks, emphasizing ability to fund good return projects.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $0.25 | $0.27 | -7.4% | $0.25 |
| Revenue | $3.68B | $4.02B | -8.6% | $3.91B |
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