KKR & Co., Inc.
KKR & Co., Inc. Q3 FY2024 earnings call
October 24, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09
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Summary
Generated 2024-10-24
Management highlights
- Strong Q3 performance: Fee-related earnings eclipsed $1 billion for the first time, with $1.12 of FRE per share 32% ahead of last quarter, and ANI per share $1.38 the second highest quarterly figure in history.
- Operating metrics momentum: Gross unrealized carried interest balance increased 11% QoQ and 42% YoY; raised $87 billion YTD in new capital, deployed $61 billion YTD.
- Total operating earnings: $1.47 per share in Q3, comprising over 80% of pre-tax earnings.
- Deployment highlights: Infrastructure AUM at $77 billion, credit AUM over $65 billion, Asia AUM nearly $70 billion.
- Monetization: $13 billion gross proceeds YTD from monetization, gross unrealized carried interest $7.9 billion.
- Fundraising: $85 billion YTD, K-Series AUM $14 billion.
- Capital markets: $424 million revenues in Q3, a record for the public company.
Segment performance
Management fees in the quarter were $893 million, representing a 5% increase since Q2 and 18% year-over-year. Transaction and monitoring fees totaled $467 million, including a record $424 million of capital markets fees. Fee-related performance revenues were $57 million. Insurance operating earnings were $308 million for the quarter. Strategic holdings operating earnings were $7 million in Q3. Investment performance: Traditional private equity portfolio appreciated 5% in the quarter and 17% in the last 12 months. Opportunistic real estate was up 2% in the quarter and 3% in the LTM. Infrastructure was up 6% in Q3 and 18% in the LTM. Leveraged credit composite was up 2% in Q3 and 11% in the LTM; alternative credit composite was up 3% in Q3 and 12% in the LTM. Fee-related revenues were $1.4 billion, up over 50% compared to Q3 2023.
Guidance
- Confidence in fundraising momentum, expecting continued growth in deployed capital and fundraising. - Expecting further acceleration in exit activity if market conditions remain constructive. - Originally targeting over $300 billion in fundraising, tracking ahead with $85 billion YTD, with increased confidence in achieving the target.
Risks
- Market volatility: Can impact portfolio valuations and investment performance. - Regulatory changes: Potential effect on operations and fundraising. - Geopolitical factors: Tariffs and trade wars may affect portfolio companies' performance.
Q&A highlights
Q: Question on infrastructure business performance and sustainability.
A: Infrastructure business has grown organically to $77 billion AUM, with strong performance, and scale advantages, with performance being key driver.
Q: Question on Asset-Based Finance.
A: ABF AUM $65 billion, up 40% YoY, with origination $22 billion YTD, and activity across various platforms.
Q: Question on Real Assets segment fundraising.
A: Real Assets has $80 billion AUM in infra and real estate, with momentum in investment activity and operating trends.
Q: Question on wealth management opportunity.
A: $75 billion AUM from individuals, K-Series suite of products with $14 billion AUM, strong momentum in private equity and infrastructure.
Q: Question on accrued performance income and balance sheet embedded gains.
A: Accrued carry broad-based, from real assets portfolio, balance sheet embedded gains dependent on monetization environment.
Q: Question on fundraising target mark-to-market.
A: Tracking ahead of $300+ billion target, with increased confidence due to fundraising momentum.
Q: Question on election impact on portfolio.
A: Teams focused on scenario planning, watching geopolitical factors closely.
Q: Question on fee rates.
A: Fee rates influenced by new products and portfolio scale, evaluated over longer term.
Q: Question on capital markets outlook.
A: Capital markets business not to be evaluated quarterly, with durability and potential for growth.
Q: Question on climate strategy.
A: Massive capital needs in climate, with $2.5 billion AUM and more to come.
Q: Question on GA ROE target.
A: Expecting 14%-15% pre-tax ROE long-term, dependent on various variables.
Q: Question on core private equity portfolio sale.
A: Focus on portfolio optimization, with sale of FiberCop due to specific circumstances, long-term holds strategy unchanged.
Q: Question on GA contribution to capital markets.
A: GA solid contributor in Q3, with hundreds of millions of dollars opportunity over time.
Q: Question on wealth channel in China.
A: Target date funds key, long-term opportunity for KKR, partnership with Capital Group relevant.
Q: Question on visible realization pipeline.
A: ~$500 million monetization-related revenue in Q4, 60% with lower compensation ratio.
Q: Question on capital markets revenue split.
A: Deployment is largest driver, third-party business historically ~20% of revenue, expecting expansion of FRE margins.
Key numbers
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| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $1.38 | $1.20 | +15.0% | — |
| Revenue | $4.73B | $1.79B | +164.1% | — |
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