IBM
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORP
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORP Q4 FY2024 earnings call
January 29, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
EPS · actual vs est
$3.92 / $3.78Beat +3.7%
Revenue · actual vs est
$17.55B / $17.57BMiss -0.1%
Summary
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Management highlights
Management Statement and Operational Highlights
- Year-End Performance: IBM delivered 3% revenue growth and $12.7 billion of free cash flow in 2024. Software grew ahead of its mid-single-digit goal, and Red Hat achieved double-digit growth.
- Macroeconomic Environment: Geopolitical tensions, interest-rate volatility, supply-chain vulnerabilities, demographic shifts, and evolving cyber threats create headwinds, but IBM's technology and consulting expertise help drive business transformations.
- Generative AI: The GenAI book of business grew to over $5 billion, with IBM's Granite models and partnerships. Approximately one-fifth of this book is from software, and the remaining four-fifths from consulting.
- Acquisitions: IBM acquired Neural Magic to strengthen AI solutions and intends to acquire Applications Technology Software; the HashiCorp acquisition is pending.
- Portfolio Mix: Software now makes up 45% of the business, with over $15 billion of ARR, growing at double-digits.
Segment performance
Segment Performance
- Software: Fourth quarter revenue growth accelerated to 11%, with Red Hat up 17%, Automation 16%, Data & AI 11%, and Transaction Processing 11%. Software constitutes about 45% of the business. Full-year revenue was up 9%, and Hybrid Platform & Solutions ARR was $15.3 billion, up 11%.
- Consulting: Revenue decreased 1% in the quarter but achieved record signings and strong sequential growth in the generative AI book of business. Full-year revenue was up 1%, with a segment profit margin of nearly 12%.
- Infrastructure: Revenue declined 6% in the quarter due to product cycle dynamics. Full-year revenue was down 3%, but z16 had over 120% program-to-program growth.
Guidance
Guidance
- 2025 Outlook: IBM expects constant currency revenue growth to inflect higher to 5% plus and free cash flow of about $13.5 billion. Software is expected to approach double-digit growth, Consulting to accelerate, and Infrastructure to contribute to growth. First quarter revenue growth is expected to be similar to the fourth quarter.
Risks
Risks
- Macroeconomic Headwinds: Geopolitical tensions, interest-rate volatility, supply-chain vulnerabilities, demographic shifts, and evolving cyber threats pose challenges.
- Regulatory Uncertainty: Impact on M&A deals, though IBM anticipates a more rational and pro-competition regulatory environment.
Q&A highlights
Question and Answer
- Q: Talk about linearity in 2025 guidance, H1 vs H2 perspective. A: James Kavanaugh stated Software is strong, Consulting sees more second-half acceleration, and Infrastructure is back to growth above model.
- Q: Thoughts on M&A and DeepSeek. A: Arvind Krishna expects reasonable M&A deals to go through, with HashiCorp acquisition pending; DeepSeek validates the importance of smaller models for enterprise.
- Q: Consulting revenue yield and Software AI products. A: James Kavanaugh discussed Consulting's long-term growth potential; Arvind Krishna highlighted watsonx family, Red Hat, and Neural Magic acquisitions as key Software products.
- Q: Infrastructure, TPP sustainability, and mainframe cycle. A: James Kavanaugh spoke about TPP's role in mainframe stack economics and Software growth, expressing confidence in the mainframe cycle reception.
- Q: 2025 outlook inclusive of HashiCorp and free cash flow details. A: James Kavanaugh mentioned HashiCorp is included in guidance, with free cash flow driven by adjusted EBITDA growth, offset by CapEx and cash taxes.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $3.92 | $3.78 | +3.7% | $3.87 |
| Revenue | $17.55B | $17.57B | -0.1% | $17.38B |
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