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HANCOCK WHITNEY CORP

HANCOCK WHITNEY CORP Q3 FY2024 earnings call

October 15, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

EPS · actual vs est

$1.33 / $1.29Beat +2.9%

Revenue · actual vs est

$364.7M / $364.9MMiss -0.0%
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Summary

Generated 2024-10-15

Management highlights

  • Improved profitability with ROA of 1.32% and NIM expansion. - Fee income growth and well-controlled operating expenses. - Balance sheet: Loans down $450 million with purposeful decrease in SNC exposure, higher pay-offs in CRE portfolios, and completion of large industrial projects. Deposits down but DDA outflow moderated. - Capital ratios among top quartile peers. - Strategic investments in fee income lines yielding impressive returns. - Responded to recent hurricanes by delivering aid in impacted areas.
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Segment performance

Net interest income was up due to higher yields on loans and securities and flat cost of funds. Fee income continued to outperform. Operating expenses were down quarter-over-quarter. ROA was 1.32%. Net income was $116 million or $1.33 per share, up from last quarter. PPNR growth was $10.1 million or 10% to $167 million. NIM expanded 2 basis points to 3.39. Loan yield was up 3 basis points to 6.27%, bond yields up 6 basis points to 2.66%. Deposit DDA outflow moderated with a stable mix at around 36%.

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Guidance

  • Expect NIM expansion in fourth quarter despite rate cuts, driven by lower deposit rates, higher bond yields, partially offset by lower loan yields. - Non-interest income for 2024 expected up 6%-7% from 2023. - Expenses expected to grow 1%-2% year-over-year. - Hiring bankers to support balance sheet growth in 2025, details to be shared in January. - Cost of deposits expected to be down significantly in fourth quarter due to rate cuts.
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Risks

  • Credit risks with criticized loans increasing, though geographically and industrially spread, and no immediate material issues identified. - Economic environment uncertainty impacting ability to accurately project results. - Fraud risks on consumer and small business deposits, with ongoing efforts to detect and prevent losses.
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Q&A highlights

Q: Talked about uptick in criticized commercial loans and prospects with lower rates.

A: Chris Ziluca explained criticized loans geographically and industrially spread, no specific sectors driving, and potential benefit from rate easing but issues not just interest rates.

Q: How to think about loan growth from here?

A: John Hairston said SNC self-induced headwind nearly over, demand tepid but green shoots, commercial banking pipelines building.

Q: Color on fee income, especially derivative, SBIC, BOLI, SBA in 3Q?

A: Mike Achary said third quarter fee income strong, specialty fee income lines contributed to growth, fourth quarter expected modest drop.

Q: Thoughts on capital accumulation and growth?

A: Mike Achary said capital levels give optionality, plan for organic balance sheet growth, M&A not planned but considered if opportunities arise.

Q: Criticized loans and future color?

A: Chris Ziluca said credit classified appropriately, interest rates impact customers, modifications term related.

Q: PPNR guide change and recruiting?

A: Mike Achary said PPNR likely lower in fourth quarter due to balance sheet and fees, John Hairston said recruiting efforts ongoing, details in January.

Q: Deposit pricing and fraud?

A: Mike Achary talked about deposit betas, John Hairston discussed fraud losses less this year with investments in detection.

Q: Risk adjusted returns and fraud?

A: Chris Ziluca talked about risk adjusted returns rationalizing with broader demand, John Hairston discussed fraud on small business deposits.

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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$1.33$1.29+2.9%$1.12
Revenue$364.7M$364.9M-0.0%$353.9M

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