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HUBSPOT INC Q4 FY2024 earnings call

February 12, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12

EPS · actual vs est

$2.32 / $2.18Beat +6.4%

Revenue · actual vs est

$703.2M / $673.3MBeat +4.4%
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Summary

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Management highlights

Yamini Rangan discussed HubSpot's solid finish to 2024, with Q4 revenue growth and full year growth. Highlighted strong momentum in AI, including Copilot with over 75,000 weekly active users, Agents like Customer Agent and Content Agent gaining traction. Mentioned multi-hub adoption with over 35% of pro plus customers by ARR using four or more hubs up 7% year over year. Up-market segment saw large deals grow 21% year over year driven by product advancements. Down-market segment benefited from pricing model change and AI innovation. Retention was strong in 2024. Kate Bueker walked through financial results, including revenue growth, subscription and services revenue details, and customer additions.

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Segment performance

Full year 2024 revenue grew 21% year-over-year in both constant currency and as reported. Full year subscription revenue grew 21% year-over-year, while services and other revenue increased 24% both on an as-reported basis. Q4 revenue grew 20% year-over-year in constant currency and 21% on an as-reported basis. Subscription revenue grew 21% year-over-year. While services and other revenue increased 36% on an as-reported basis. Q4 domestic revenue grew 19% year-over-year. International revenue growth was 20% in constant currency and 23% as reported, representing 47% of total revenue. We added over 9,800 net new customers in Q4, ending the year with a total of nearly 248,000 customers, growing 21% year-over-year. Average subscription revenue per customer was $11,300 in Q4, down 1% year-over-year in constant currency and roughly flat on an as-reported basis. Q4 customer dollar retention remained healthy in the high 80s, and net revenue retention increased 2 points sequentially to 104%, reflecting the continued momentum in seat expansion from customers on the new seat-based pricing model.

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Guidance

For the full year of 2025, total as reported revenue is expected to be in the range of $2.985 billion to $2.995 billion, up 16% year-over-year in constant currency and 14% on an as reported basis. Non-GAAP operating profit is expected to be between $543 million and $547 million, representing an 18% operating profit margin. Non-GAAP diluted net income per share is expected to be between $9.11 and $9.19. For the first quarter, total as reported revenue is expected to be in the range of $697 million to $699 million, up 15% year-over-year in constant currency and 13% on an as reported basis. Non-GAAP operating profit is expected to be between $98 million and $99 million, with a little over a point headwind to operating profit margin in Q1 due to an increase in the company match rate of our 401(k) contributions. Non-GAAP diluted net income per share is expected to be between $1.74 and $1.76. Also mentioned FX to be approximately 200 basis point headwind to 2025 revenue growth and a 50 basis point headwind to operating profit margin, and CapEx as a percentage of revenue to be roughly 5% for 2025, with free cash flow expected to be about $560 million for the full year.

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Risks

Risks include foreign exchange movement, market competition, customer purchase behavior changes that could impact revenue and profitability, as well as the uncertainties related to the execution of growth strategies and the impact of AI monetization models.

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Q&A highlights

Q: Samad Samana asked about AI monetization and how customers' conversations have evolved on pricing and measuring ROI.

A: Yamini Rangan said the strategy is to embed AI across the entire platform, focus on delivering value first, and pricing will be a combination of seat-based and usage-based. Kate Bueker added they haven't assumed direct agent monetization in guidance but see strong momentum from AI features.

Q: Mark Murphy asked about DeepSeek and LLMs impacting cost and efficiency.

A: Dharmesh Shah said COGS has been reduced and reasoning models expand use cases.

Q: Bradley Sills asked about upselling motion and activity.

A: Kate Bueker said net revenue retention improved but remaining headwinds are from other upgrades and people are still value-driven.

Q: Arjun Bhatia asked about new customer acquisitions and ARPC growth.

A: Kate Bueker said net adds are in the 9,000 to 10,000 range with a higher mix of professional and enterprise and ASRPC expected to stabilize and grow low single-digit later.

Q: Jackson Ader asked about internal AI adoption impacting expense growth.

A: Kate Bueker said reinvestment in R&D and go to market, Yamini Rangan talked about reimagining go-to-market with AI.

Q: Gabriela Borges asked about driving value for customers and pricing consumption.

A: Yamini Rangan said focus on innovating, delivering value, and then monetizing when repeat usage and value are seen.

Q: Alex Zukin asked about demand environment and SMB optimism.

A: Yamini Rangan said demand environment improved with more conversations about AI and multi-hub adoption.

Q: Brian Peterson asked about co-selling growth and channel partner mix.

A: Yamini Rangan said co-selling grew 68% with multiyear efforts and focus on upmarket.

Q: Ryan MacWilliams asked about installed base pricing increase.

A: Kate Bueker said migration to new pricing model with 50%-60% ARR expected to go through first renewal by end of 2025.

Q: Rishi Jaluria asked about net new use cases with generative AI.

A: Yamini Rangan talked about combining structured and unstructured data, building context and knowledge layers, and UI changes.

Q: Michael Turrin asked about end of year decision-making and 2025 guide.

A: Kate Bueker said Q4 2024 was a continuation of Q3 and 2025 revenue growth expected to accelerate with a step down in Q1.

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$2.32$2.18+6.4%$1.76
Revenue$703.2M$673.3M+4.4%$581.9M

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