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EPAM Systems, Inc.

EPAM Systems, Inc. Q4 FY2024 earnings call

February 20, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12

EPS · actual vs est

$2.84 / $2.75Beat +3.3%

Revenue · actual vs est

$1.25B / $1.27BMiss -2.0%
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Summary

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Management highlights

  • Q4 Results: Grew mid-single-digits YOY and sequentially, returning to organic revenue growth since Q1 2023. Improved client sentiments and engagements, especially around AI-related capabilities.
  • Acquisitions: NEORIS and First Derivative expanded global footprint by ~6,000 people, with significant impact on emerging verticals and geographic regions.
  • GenAI Progress: 75% of top country clients engaged on GenAI initiatives, early-stage projects growing, and mid-sized AI projects emerging as Agentic AI pilots.
  • Global Delivery: Diversified talent pools across Europe, India, Latin America, and Western Central Asia, with sequential net additions in various regions, including Ukraine showing first sequential net additions since the Russian invasion.
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Segment performance

Vertical Performance:

  • Financial services: 15.9% year-over-year growth, with 4.3% organic and 11.6% inorganic growth.
  • Life sciences and healthcare: 8.6% year-over-year growth, 5.7% organic and 2.9% inorganic growth.
  • Software and high-tech: 7.7% year-over-year growth, 6.4% organic and 1.3% inorganic growth.
  • Emerging verticals: 24.8% growth, 3% organic and 21.8% inorganic growth, driven by energy, manufacturing, and industrial materials.
  • Consumer goods, retail and travel: -3% year-over-year, -5.7% organic and 2.7% inorganic growth.
  • Business information and media: -3.9% year-over-year, -4.7% organic and 0.8% inorganic growth.

Geographic Performance:

  • Americas: 11.4% year-over-year growth, 2.7% organic and 8.7% inorganic growth, representing 60% of Q4 revenues.
  • EMEA: 3.1% year-over-year growth, -1.4% organic and 4.5% inorganic growth, with sequential organic revenue improvement.
  • APAC: 4.3% year-over-year growth, representing 2% of revenues.
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Guidance

  • Full-Year 2025: Revenue growth range 10%-14% (inorganic ~10%), organic flat YOY then improving. GAAP income from operations range 9%-10%, non-GAAP 14.5%-15.5%. EPS GAAP range $6.78-$7.08, non-GAAP $10.45-$10.75.
  • Q1 2025: Revenue range $1.275B-$1.290B, ~10% YOY growth. GAAP income from operations range 6.5%-7.5%, non-GAAP 12.5%-13.5%.
  • Assumptions: Stock-based comp, intangibles amortization, FX impact, tax effects, and other items outlined to support GAAP to non-GAAP measurements.
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Risks

  • Macro Risks: Broad macro risks, geopolitical uncertainty, and challenges in client and talent markets.
  • Pricing and Margin: Cost sensitivity among clients impacting pricing, margin pressure from compensation increases, acquisition margins, and pricing challenges.
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Q&A highlights

Q: Maggie Nolan with William Blair asked about expectations embedded in revenue guidance and macro perspective.

A: Jason Peterson mentioned careful expectations for NEORIS and FD, with substantial program starts and client demand picking up despite a slower January.

Q: Jamie Friedman with Susquehanna asked about pricing and GenAI IP investment.

A: Jason Peterson discussed margin compression due to price sensitivity and client demand, while Arkadiy Dobkin emphasized investment in GenAI as crucial for future transformation.

Q: Bryan Bergin with TD Cowen asked about client spending behavior and new vs existing clients.

A: Arkadiy Dobkin and Jason Peterson discussed new client additions, sequential growth in certain verticals, and strong revenues in November and December.

Q: David Grossman with Stifel asked about capacity, margin, and geographic mix.

A: Jason Peterson and Arkadiy Dobkin discussed ability to grow revenue across geographies, margin improvement expectations, and impact of geographic mix on margins.

Q: Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America asked about revenue assumptions and margin.

A: Arkadiy Dobkin and Jason Peterson discussed discretionary spending improvement impact on revenue guide and wage inflation impact on margins.

Q: Darrin Peller with Wolfe Research asked about hiring plans and fixed contract percent.

A: Jason Peterson discussed headcount additions, geographic hiring, and fixed fee business mix.

Q: Jonathan Lee with Guggenheim Partners asked about vertical outlook and pricing catalyst.

A: Arkadiy Dobkin and Jason Peterson discussed vertical acceleration expectations and factors catalyzing better pricing environment.

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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$2.84$2.75+3.3%$2.75
Revenue$1.25B$1.27B-2.0%$1.16B

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