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Leonardo DRS, Inc.

Leonardo DRS, Inc. Q1 FY2025 earnings call

May 1, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2025-03

EPS · actual vs est

$0.20 / $0.17Beat +21.1%

Revenue · actual vs est

$799.0M / $736.7MBeat +8.5%
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Summary

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Management highlights

Management Statement and Operational Highlights:

  • Solid Q1 results with nearly $1 billion in bookings, a 1.2 book-to-bill ratio, and backlog reaching $8.6 billion, marking 13 consecutive quarters with a book-to-bill above 1.
  • Commenced capital return initiatives with dividend payment and initial stock repurchases.
  • Macro conditions: Customers operating under FY 2025 continuing resolution, DoD with new program starts and funding flexibility; tariffs have limited direct impact, but monitoring derivative effects; China's rare earth restrictions affected germanium supply, causing cost absorption and pressured profitability.
  • Operational progress: Expediting Charleston, SC facility and submarine industrial base investment; new opportunities for electric power and propulsion technologies; AI processor release for combat vehicles; progress in shipbuilding and Counter-UAS capabilities; focus on enhancing program execution resilience.
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Segment performance

Segment Performance:

  • ASC (Advanced Systems & Components): Q1 revenue growth was 18%. Adjusted EBITDA increased by 2%, but margin declined by 130 basis points primarily due to negative contract adjustments in the segment, including discrete cost growth from a sole-source supplier on the Infrared Sensing Program and increased germanium costs.
  • IMS (Integrated Mission Systems): Revenue was up nicely at 11%. Adjusted EBITDA was up 38%, and margin expanded by 260 basis points, driven by favorable contract adjustments on the Columbia Class and operational benefits from increased volume.
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Guidance

Guidance:

  • Maintain 2025 guidance: Revenue in the range of $3.45 billion to $3.525 billion (6%-9% year-over-year growth). Adjusted EBITDA expected between $435 million and $455 million. Adjusted diluted EPS in the range of $1.02 to $1.08 per share. Target 80% free cash flow conversion of adjusted net earnings.
  • Q2 outlook: Expect revenue to trend around $825 million with adjusted EBITDA margin likely in the mid-11% range.
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Risks

Risks:

  • Tariff impacts: Potential derivative effects on the business, though direct impacts are limited given customer base and supply chain being largely US-based.
  • China's rare earth mineral restrictions: Affected germanium supply for infrared sensing products, leading to cost absorption and pricing volatility.
  • Supply chain issues: Discrete supplier challenge in Q1 with a sole-source optics supplier on an international program, causing increased costs and pressure on profitability.
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Q&A highlights

Q: Michael Ciarmoli asked about specific programs driving revenue growth and international growth.

A: Mike Dippold responded that material acceleration was holistic across the board, with domestic growth driving year-over-year revenue increase and international having a slight headwind due to timing of deliveries for Ukraine support.

Q: Seth Seifman asked about margin expectations and shipbuilding opportunities.

A: Mike Dippold explained margin expansion is driven by operational leverage from increasing revenue, and Bill Lynn discussed opportunities in shipbuilding related to the Charleston facility and Navy investments.

Q: Jon Tanwanteng asked about guidance and exposure to next-generation missile systems.

A: Bill Lynn stated guidance is driven by continued thrust and improved linearity, and DRS has a greenfield opportunity in next-generation missile systems with sensor capabilities.

Q: Ron Epstein's analyst asked about Europe exposure and subsystem opportunities.

A: Bill Lynn mentioned substantial near-term opportunities in Europe for counter-drone and sensing systems.

Q: Andre Madrid asked about M&A and germanium supply risks.

A: Bill Lynn stated M&A remains a top capital allocation priority, and Mike Dippold explained they are including economic price adjustment clauses in future contracts to mitigate germanium price volatility risks.

Q: Karl Oehlschlaeger asked about ASC margin and $150 billion funding.

A: Mike Dippold discussed margin expectations and Bill Lynn highlighted alignment with priorities in the $150 billion reconciliation bill related to shipbuilding and other areas.

Q: Kristine Liwag's analyst asked about Army transformation and contracting activity.

A: Bill Lynn stated DRS is well-positioned against Army priorities and saw healthy bookings with no change in customer behavior.

Q: Jan Engelbrecht asked about confidence in high-growth opportunities and interest expense.

A: Bill Lynn discussed continuing IRAD investments and Mike Dippold mentioned lower interest expense expected for the year due to improved cash linearity.

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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$0.20$0.17+21.1%$0.14
Revenue$799.0M$736.7M+8.5%$688.0M

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