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Cushman & Wakefield Ltd.

Cushman & Wakefield Ltd. Q3 FY2024 earnings call

November 4, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

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Management highlights

Management Statement and Operational Highlights

  • Execution and Growth: Continued top line growth in targeted areas, fourth consecutive quarter of leasing growth, Capital Markets growth in Americas, and reduced leverage by extinguishing $200M in 2025 debt ahead of schedule.
  • Strategic Investments: Targeted investments in leasing, integration of data/technology across platforms, achieved 260 basis point improvement in top talent retention, and formed cross-functional teams to improve receivables collections.
  • Capital Allocation Priorities: Focus on funding brokerage, re-accelerating Services through organic investments and tuck-in acquisitions, and opportunistic deleveraging while aligning with growth objectives.
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Segment performance

Segment Performance

  • Leasing: Fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth, highest since Q2 2022. Q3 leasing revenue grew 13%. Americas Leasing up 16%, APAC Leasing up 13%, EMEA Leasing down 8% Q3 but up 5% YTD.
  • Capital Markets: Americas saw first growth since Q2 2022 with 2% revenue growth in Q3. EMEA Capital Markets revenue down 5% Q3, APAC down 44% Q3 but strong pipelines.
  • Services: Revenue up 1% excluding divestiture, or down 2% reported. APAC Services up 6%, EMEA restructuring complete with expected Q4 growth, Americas Services up 3% excluding divestiture.
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Guidance

Guidance

  • Revenue: Raised 2024 Leasing growth to mid-single digits, Capital Markets expected to improve sequentially with 20% Q4 revenue growth, Services flat organic in 2024 with target of mid-single digit growth in 2025.
  • Cash Flow: Expected to finish 2024 within 30%-40% free cash flow to EBITDA conversion, translating to roughly 80% free cash flow to adjusted net income conversion.
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Risks

Risks

  • Market Uncertainty: Persistent market uncertainty affecting Capital Markets performance in some regions.
  • Margin Pressures: Q3 impacted by ~$20M headwind from comp expenses, with Q4 expected to have ~$5-10M headwind, less material than Q3.
  • Project Delays: Delays in project management, particularly in office space, due to a subdued market, though pipelines are beginning to build.
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Q&A highlights

Question and Answer

Q: Clarification on Capital Markets 20% growth (year-over-year or sequential).

A: Neil Johnston states it is year-over-year growth.

Q: Margin impact and 4Q outlook.

A: Neil Johnston says Q3 had ~$20M headwind, with Q4 expected to have ~$5-10M headwind, less material.

Q: Leasing normalization.

A: Neil Johnston notes leasing has had five quarters of growth, with some lumpiness but confidence in longer-term growth.

Q: Buyer/seller expectations and debt markets.

A: Michelle MacKay and Neil Johnston discuss Fed rate cuts and their impact on Capital Markets, and Greystone's multifamily lending situation.

Q: M&A in Capital Markets.

A: Michelle MacKay says the door is open for M&A in Advisory or Services, with focus on investing in data/analytics and talent in Capital Markets advisory.

Q: Project management delays.

A: Neil Johnston says delays in office build-outs are due to a subdued market, but pipelines are starting to build.

Q: Capital allocation and M&A.

A: Michelle MacKay mentions investing in data/analytics and talent in Capital Markets advisory, with M&A possible in Advisory or Services areas.

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