CLEAN HARBORS INC
CLEAN HARBORS INC Q4 FY2024 earnings call
February 19, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
Management Statement and Operational Highlights
- Safety Performance: Laser-focused on safety, achieved a total recordable incident rate surpassing 2024 goal.
- Financial Performance: Consolidated EBITDA growth of 10% in 2024. ES segment had a solid fourth quarter, SKSS faced challenging commodity pricing. Delivered record revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted free cash flow in 2024.
- Milestones: Completed and launched Kimball, Nebraska incinerator; acquired and integrated HEPAKO and NOBLE Oil; growth in workforce and improved retention; launched Total PFAS solution; expanded Baltimore hub; partnership with Castrol; over 20,000 emergency response events.
- Kimball Incinerator: Launched commercial operations in December, initial shakedown phase underway, expected to ramp up gradually over 12-18 months, increases North American capacity by 12%.
- PFAS Testing: Testing in November at Utah facility with EPA and DoD, results expected in Q2, confident PFAS can be safely eliminated using incinerators.
Segment performance
Segment Performance
- Environmental Services (ES): Adjusted EBITDA increased 11% with a 9% revenue increase, translating to a 50 basis point margin improvement. HEPAKO accounted for half of the $103 million revenue increase. Field services revenue grew 47%, technical services revenue increased 8%, average pricing in incinerators rose 4%, and incineration utilization was 94%. Safety-Kleen Environmental Services had steady revenue growth, with 6% in Q4, 246,000 parts wash services, and strong containerized waste services. Industrial services drove price improvements and managed cost structure.
- SKSS (Safety-Kleen Environmental Services): Revenue and EBITDA decreased year over year in Q4 due to soft demand and lower pricing. Actions taken include shifting to a charge-for-oil position, idling California refineries, and cost-cutting initiatives. Collected 63 million gallons of waste oil in Q4, higher than prior year due to Noble Oil acquisition.
Guidance
Guidance
- 2025 Adjusted EBITDA: Expected range of $1.15 billion to $1.21 billion, midpoint $1.18 billion.
- Quarterly Guidance: Q1 adjusted EBITDA growth 4%-6% in ES segment, flat on consolidated basis. ES segment adjusted EBITDA expected to increase 5%-8% from 2024. SKSS full-year adjusted EBITDA midpoint $140 million. Corporate adjusted EBITDA expected negative, up 3%-7% from 2024. Adjusted cash flow expected range $430-$490 million, midpoint $469 million. Plan to invest $50 million in Phoenix growth project.
Risks
Risks
- Market Conditions: SKSS faces challenges in base oil and lubricants market with soft demand and lower pricing.
- Regulatory Changes: Uncertainty around PFAS regulations and potential changes in MAC standards for incinerators, which could impact operations and costs.
- Weather and Geographic Disruptions: California wildfires affected branch collections and had modest impact on Q1 guidance.
Q&A highlights
Question and Answer
Q: Any incremental opportunities from California wildfires cleanup?
A: Participating in cleanup, modest benefits in Q1 but net neutral due to slowdown in region.
Q: Kimball incinerator ramp-up and utilization?
A: Started with weather issues, team overcoming startup issues, expecting tonnage throughput in Q1, incremental EBITDA contributions of $8M-$12M this year, ramping up to $25M-$45M over next 3-4 years.
Q: PFAS revenue growth?
A: Pipeline growing, but no significant revenue growth built into guidance, active market with 20% quarter-over-quarter pipeline increase.
Q: SKSS capacity and pricing?
A: Nameplate capacity comparable after acquisition of Noble and closure of Newark, California; aggressive CFO pricing leading to some lost gallons, but not over-collecting.
Q: Impact of Trump administration's power policy?
A: No material effect on regulations affecting business, new EPA leader supportive of regulations and PFAS remediation.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $1.55 | $1.36 | +14.0% | $1.82 |
| Revenue | $1.43B | $1.42B | +0.5% | $1.34B |
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