Blackstone Inc.
Blackstone Inc. Q4 FY2024 earnings call
January 30, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
Management Statement and Operational Highlights
- Strong Fundraising: Blackstone saw $57 billion inflows in Q4 and $171 billion for the year, with $28 billion raised in private wealth in 2024, including $23 billion in potential strategies.
- Infrastructure Growth: BIP has $55 billion in AUM, up 34% year-over-year, with strong investment performance. Plans for geographic expansion, new client channels, and sector-specific strategies.
- Credit and Insurance Momentum: Credit deployed $134 billion in 2024, up 81% year-over-year. Insurance business at $230 billion, with strong inflows and performance, including partnerships like Resolution Life.
- Private Wealth Acceleration: Private wealth sales $28 billion in 2024, with new infrastructure vehicle launched and multi-asset credit fund set to launch in H1 2025.
- Investment Performance: Strong returns across segments, with distributable earnings up 56% in Q4 to $2.2 billion, and net realizations at highest in 10 quarters.
Segment performance
Segment Performance
- Infrastructure (BIP): Generated $1.2 billion in fee revenues in Q4. AUM of $55 billion, up 34% year-over-year. Contributed significantly to fee-related performance revenues.
- Credit: Record deployment of $134 billion in 2024, up 81% year-over-year. Inflows for credit insurance platform exceeded $100 billion in 2024, comprising 60% of total inflows. Non-investment grade private credit and real estate credit drawdown strategies appreciated 16% and 18% in 2024. Insurance business at $230 billion, up 19% year-over-year.
- Private Wealth: Raised $28 billion in 2024. BCRED led with over $12 billion raised, private equity strategy DXP grew to over $8 billion in first year, BREIT flows trended favorably.
- Real Estate: Deployed $25 billion in 2024, up nearly 70% year-over-year. Equity-oriented funds down in Q4 due to treasury yield increase, but cash flows growing solidly.
Guidance
Guidance
- 2025 Outlook: Expect further acceleration in fundraising, continued capital deployment, growth in platform and perpetual strategies. Better environment for realizations in 2025.
- Infrastructure Growth: Envision growth parallel to real estate, with geographic expansion and new client channels.
- Credit Insurance: Well-positioned to deliver strong financial performance in 2025 with robust inflows and record deployment.
Risks
Risks
- Market Volatility: Impact of treasury yield volatility, inflation concerns, and policy uncertainty.
- Regulatory Changes: Potential impact of new administration policies on business operations and investments.
- Competition: Competition in asset management, particularly in private wealth and infrastructure spaces.
Q&A highlights
Q: Dan Fannon asks about real estate market fundamentals and recovery.
A: Jon Gray discusses demand, supply, cash flows, and rate environment.
Q: Craig Siegenthaler asks about corporate private equity monetization and real estate cycle relative to private equity.
A: Jon Gray talks about improving environment, IPO pipeline, and real estate recovery timeline.
Q: Michael Cyprys asks about AI and data centers.
A: Jon Gray discusses data center demand, power usage, and importance of physical infrastructure.
Q: Kyle Voigt asks about BXPE fundraising and expansion.
A: Jon Gray talks about BXPE's growth, distribution, and investment performance.
Q: Bill Katz asks about retirement and regulatory backdrop.
A: Jon Gray discusses retirement access to private assets and regulatory potential.
Q: Kaimon Chung asks about insurance partnerships and Asia growth.
A: Jon Gray talks about insurance industry trends, partnerships, and growth in Asia.
Q: Alex Blostein asks about credit deployment and capital on the platform.
A: Jon Gray and Michael Chae discuss credit deployment, capital on the platform, and future growth.
Q: Brian Bedell asks about FRE margin outlook for 2025.
A: Michael Chae talks about margin stability, management fees, OpEx, and investment in new initiatives.
Q: Mike Brown asks about multi-asset credit fund vs BCRED.
A: Jon Gray discusses the new fund's breadth and structure.
Q: Brennan Hawken asks about FRPR in credit.
A: Jon Gray and Michael Chae talk about spread tightening, base rates, and FRPR generation.
Q: Ken Worthington asks about big four insurance relationships.
A: Michael Chae and Jon Gray discuss AUM, partnerships, and future growth with insurance clients.
Q: Steven Chubak asks about BREIT flows and retail allocations.
A: Jon Gray talks about BREIT's performance, cash flows, and potential for growth.
Q: Ben Budish asks about BIP FRPR trajectory.
A: Jon Gray and Michael Chae discuss BIP's momentum, incentive fees, and future FRPR.
Q: Patrick Davitt asks about trade war impact and geographic exposure.
A: Glenn Schorr and Michael Chae talk about trade war risks and geographic portfolio exposure.
Q: Crispin Love asks about interest rate outlook and impact on PE/real estate.
A: Jon Gray discusses inflation data, labor market, and Fed's potential actions.
Q: Arnaud Giblat asks about perpetual products distribution evolution.
A: Jon Gray talks about private wealth growth potential, distribution investment, and brand strength.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
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| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $1.69 | $1.47 | +14.7% | $1.11 |
| Revenue | $2.81B | $3.69B | -23.7% | $1.29B |
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