Ballard Power Systems, Inc.
Ballard Power Systems, Inc. Q4 FY2024 earnings call
March 13, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
- Order Intake: 2024 was a record year for order intake with $113 million, including $75.4 million in Q4, and a year-ending backlog of $173.5 million.
- Product Shipments: Delivery of fuel cell engines grew 30% in 2024, with over 660 engines and 56.5 megawatts shipped, marking the fourth consecutive year of growth.
- Operating Costs: Initiated global restructuring in September to reduce annualized operating costs by over 30%, with workforce reductions, facility rationalization, and deferred Gigafactory investment.
- Product Development: Launched ninth-generation FC Move XD engine, made progress on product cost reduction, and completed initial development of Project Forge for bipolar plate manufacturing.
Segment performance
In 2024, Ballard's power products saw record-breaking order intake with $113 million total new orders, including $75.4 million in Q4, and a year-ending order backlog of $173.5 million. Product shipments of fuel cell engines grew 30% in 2024, with over 660 engines delivered and 56.5 megawatts shipped, accounting for over 90% of total revenue. The bus vertical had $44 million in 2024 revenue, a 51% increase, representing over 60% of total revenue. The rail vertical signed a landmark long-term supply agreement with CPKC for 98 fuel cell engines. The stationary segment secured a 15-megawatt order and formed a partnership with Vertiv.
Guidance
- 2025 operating expenses expected to range $100M-$120M, a ~30% reduction from 2024.
- 2025 capital expenditures expected to be $15M-$25M, a reduction from 2024.
- No near or mid-term financing requirements due to cost reductions and strong balance sheet.
Risks
- Industry rationalization with some competitors failing.
- Policy uncertainty, including temporary pause on US hydrogen funding awards.
- Potential delays in hydrogen availability affecting customer deployments.
Q&A highlights
Q: How does the order book look into 2025 and the split of backlog?
A: Order backlog is $173.5 million, with roughly half in bus market and 40% in rail. Expect good quarters in 2025 with ongoing platform wins.
Q: On stationary business, where is demand growth?
A: Weak grid/microgrid, EV charging, and early-stage data center market, focusing on 100+ kilowatt applications.
Q: What percentage of backlog is from long-term platform customers?
A: Roughly 70-80% of business comes from 8 repeat customers.
Q: Levers to trend below OpEx guide?
A: Rationalization of product portfolio and prioritization of core products for efficiencies.
Q: Impact of order timing lumps in US due to ITC expiration?
A: Bus market in US has strong interest with ongoing sales pipelines, no retraction seen yet.
Q: Timing and margin impact of Project Forge?
A: Equipment arrived, commissioning by June, optimization in Q3, expecting benefits in 2026 with potential 70% cost reduction on bipolar plates.
Q: M&A opportunities in industry rationalization?
A: No attractive or additive M&A seen yet, focusing on cash flow positive contributions.
Q: Thoughts on hydrogen availability and color?
A: Mixed report on hydrogen availability, with more opportunities in gray and blue hydrogen, and green hydrogen forecasted by 2030-2035.
Q: Shipments growth and gross margin outlook?
A: 2025 shipments to have higher megawatts due to rail orders, with contribution margin improvements from 11 initiatives, expecting stepwise gross margin improvement in 2025.
Q: CapEx priorities for 2025?
A: Completion of Project Forge, maintenance CapEx, and modest testing improvements.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $-0.14 | $-0.18 | +22.2% | $-0.16 |
| Revenue | $24.5M | $11.8M | +107.8% | $47.4M |
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