EPS · actual vs est
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Summary
Generated 2025-07-30
Management highlights
- Sales declined 4% in the second quarter due to lower volumes, but record gross profit margins were achieved. EBIT increased despite lower sales, and EBIT margins expanded.
- SG&A increased 6% due to transition costs and 10 new locations from recent acquisitions. The balance sheet remains solid with a strong cash position and no debt.
- Technology investments continue: e-commerce growth, mobile apps with 70,000 users, OnCall Air volume up 19%. A new technology-driven sales platform for national customers is being developed and expected to launch in 2026.
- Goal to reach 30% gross profit margin. Focus on growing the parts and supplies segment, which is currently ~30% of sales. Launched 2 AI platforms to harness data and transform customer experience, operating efficiency, and drive growth.
Segment performance
E-commerce is a $2.5 billion business, accounting for 34% of sales. Mobile apps have 70,000 users and grew 17% year-over-year. The annual volume of products sold through OnCall Air, the digital selling platform for customer contractors, increased 19% to $1.6 billion. Parts and supplies currently represent roughly 30% of sales.
Guidance
- 2026 is expected to be a simpler business after the significant product transition to next-generation equipment with A2L refrigerants. July is better than June, and August is bigger than July. The goal is to reach 30% gross profit margin. The Dream plan 2 includes targets of $10 billion in revenue, 30% gross profit margin, and 5x inventory turn.
Risks
- Weather patterns impacted sales, with a late start to the summer season and residential new construction and international markets remaining subdued.
- Cylinder shortage affected the quarter, though it is expected to abate by the second half.
- International market (Mexico) is volatile and has impacted results.
- Macro-economic factors like tariffs, interest rates, and homebuilding changes pose risks to volumes.
Q&A highlights
Q: Ryan Merkel asked about volumes in the quarter and trends in July.
A: Paul Johnston responded that revenues were weaker than expected with a lumpy market, Residential New Construction down 15-20%, replacement holding strong. Barry Logan commented on international sales (Mexico) being volatile but improving.
Q: Brett Linzey inquired about gross margin sustainability.
A: Barry Logan said OEM price increases helped margin in Q2, but benefit slides off into Q3/Q4, and there's potential to beat the 27% benchmark.
Q: Thomas Allen Moll asked about inventory investment.
A: Albert Nahmad said inventory is more than hoped for, but will reduce by end of third quarter.
Q: Jeffrey Hammond asked about inventory turns.
A: Albert Nahmad mentioned Dream plan 2 with targets of $10B revenue, 30% margin, 5x inventory turn.
Q: Patrick Baumann asked about selling to large institutional customers.
A: Aaron J. Nahmad explained building Watsco 1, a unified interface for large national customers.
Q: Damian Karas asked about volumes attributable to weather and canister shortage.
A: Paul Johnston and others said canister shortage impact lessened, and it's about blocking and tackling in the second half.
Q: Samuel Snyder asked about parts mix and R-32 systems.
A: Paul Johnston said R-32 is from one manufacturer (Daikin), and 454 units are a blend including R-32.
Q: Chris Dankert asked about AI use cases.
A: Aaron J. Nahmad said AI helps in marketing, software engineering, data analysis, and customer service.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $4.52 | $4.78 | -5.4% | — |
| Revenue | $2.06B | $2.22B | -7.3% | — |
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