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Pagaya Technologies Ltd.

Pagaya Technologies Ltd. Q2 FY2025 earnings call

August 7, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2025-06

EPS · actual vs est

$0.64 / $0.69Miss -7.2%

Revenue · actual vs est

$317.7M / $338.9MMiss -6.3%
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Summary

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Management highlights

  • Gal Krubiner highlighted record GAAP net income, total revenues, and adjusted EBITDA, emphasizing the company's unique business model including asset sourcing, value proposition to lending partners, ability to produce diversified assets, and unique economic profile. Mentioned raising full-year financial outlook due to growth sustainability, data and AI advantages.
  • Sanjiv Das discussed product innovation like direct marketing and affiliate optimizer engines to help lending partners grow, and progress in auto and point-of-sale segments, including achieving AAA-rated auto ABS and successful POSH ABS.
  • Evangelos Perros covered financial results, noted record metrics, discussed the bond offering's benefits (reduced cost of debt, improved GAAP profitability, enhanced cash flow, simplified capital structure), and provided balance sheet and funding updates.
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Segment performance

Network volume grew 14% year-over-year to $2.6 billion, with personal loans being the largest contributor, up 23% YOY. POS and auto volumes now comprise 30% of total volumes versus 9% one year ago. Total revenues reached a record $326 million, up 30% from the prior year, with FRLPC (fee revenue less production costs) hitting a record $126 million, up 30% YOY. Adjusted EBITDA was $86 million, an increase of 72% from 2Q 2024. GAAP net income was $17 million, a record high, marking the second consecutive quarter of positive GAAP net income.

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Guidance

  • Full-year network volume expected to be in the range of $10.5 billion to $11.5 billion. Third quarter network volume forecasted to be $2.75 billion to $2.95 billion.
  • Total revenue and other income expected to be $330 million to $350 million for Q3 and $1.25 billion to $1.325 billion for the full year.
  • Adjusted EBITDA forecasted at $90 million to $100 million for Q3 and $345 million to $370 million for the full year.
  • GAAP net income guidance includes one-time items, with a net loss expected in the range of $5 million to $10 million for Q3 and full year, partially offset by a tax-related benefit.
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Risks

  • Factors that could cause results to differ materially from expectations, including risks described in press releases and SEC filings. Also, protracted uncertainty in the macro environment could impact growth and financial performance.
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Q&A highlights

Q: Peter Christiansen asked about conversations with potential new banking partners, especially regarding BNPL.

A: Gal Krubiner responded that there is enthusiasm from banks, including interest in BNPL and other areas, with term sheets signed and progress expected in the coming quarters.

Q: Peter Christiansen inquired about the bond offering's transformational impact.

A: Evangelos Perros stated the bond transaction is transformational, reducing cost of debt, improving GAAP profitability, enhancing cash flow, simplifying capital structure, and opening access to institutional capital.

Q: Kyle Joseph asked about new products impacting growth profile.

A: Sanjiv Das explained that new products like prescreening and affiliate optimization are expected to smooth growth, with pilots completed and term sheets signed, expecting impact by Q4 and full effect in 2026.

Q: John Hecht asked about competitive dynamics and others entering the market.

A: Gal Krubiner said others may enter, but Pagaya's unique model with tech stack, funding stability, and multi-asset class capabilities gives it a first-mover advantage and potential to dominate the market.

Q: Sanjay Sakhrani asked about consumer credit health.

A: Sanjiv Das noted strong consumer credit performance, watching student loan impact and savings rate, but responsible lending with cautious yet smart approach.

Q: Hal Goetsch asked about onboarding bank partners with limited technical resources.

A: Sanjiv Das explained the onboarding process involves model review, legal qualification, and takes 6-9 months, with high entry barriers once in.

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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$0.64$0.69-7.2%$0.10
Revenue$317.7M$338.9M-6.3%$242.6M

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