Madison Square Garden Sports Corp.
Madison Square Garden Sports Corp. Q2 FY2022 earnings call
February 3, 2022 · fiscal period ended 2021-12
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Summary
Generated 2022-02-03
Management highlights
- Business recovery: Despite the omicron variant briefly slowing progress, per-game revenues were above pre-pandemic levels, including suite, sponsorship, F&B, and merchandise per-caps. Total revenues for the fiscal year were expected to exceed the last full pre-pandemic year. - Fan and partner response: Strong season ticket sales, with individual and group sales closing the gap to pre-COVID levels despite omicron, and high fan engagement leading to strong F&B and merchandise per-caps. - Partnerships: New partnerships in mobile sports gaming (BetMGM, Caesars Sportsbook), blockchain (Coinbase, Socios). NBA and NHL jersey patch expansions creating new inventory opportunities. - Team valuations: Knicks and Rangers are highly valued, with Knicks at $6.1 billion and Rangers at $2 billion, exceeding the company's enterprise value. - Balance sheet: Refinanced Knicks and Rangers senior secured revolving credit facilities at lower rates, extended maturities, and extinguished an unsecured revolver, improving financial flexibility with $360 million in total debt and $249.8 million in liquidity.
Segment performance
For the fiscal second quarter, revenues were $290 million and adjusted operating income was $56 million. National and local media rights fees represented $112.3 million of revenue, which was a return to normal levels. Ticket-related revenue was in line with pre-pandemic levels on a per-game basis, while suites and sponsorship were above pre-pandemic levels. Sponsorship results also reflected new partnerships in sports betting, which was expected to be a significant contributor for the rest of the fiscal year with further growth anticipated in fiscal 2023.
Guidance
- Total revenues for the fiscal year, including and excluding media rights growth, were expected to exceed the last full pre-pandemic year. - Sponsorship business was expected to continue growing, with new categories and inventory opportunities. - Media rights fees were expected to continue growing, with upside potential in NBA and NHL renewals. - Digital opportunities like NFTs were seen as a way to engage fans and drive revenue.
Risks
- Pandemics: Ongoing risk of variants impacting business operations and fan attendance. - Regulatory changes: Impact of legal and tax code changes on sports betting partnerships and related revenues. - Market perception: Disconnect between stock price and asset value, requiring careful capital allocation.
Q&A highlights
Q: How to narrow the gap between stock price and asset value?
A: Maintain financial flexibility, continue strong operating performance with sponsorship and media rights growth, and evaluate capital allocation including debt reduction.
Q: Thoughts on NHL rights renewal in Canada?
A: NHL is a premium asset in Canada, and owning such rights in a premium market will deliver value.
Q: Sports betting sponsorship opportunities?
A: New York had a massive sports betting launch, with MGM and Caesars as partners, and potential for more premium, limited partnerships to reach fans through various channels.
Q: Financial impact of playoffs?
A: Playoff runs drive incremental revenue with fixed costs (player salaries, arena lease) already paid, leading to significant incremental revenue, and long-term benefits in ticket renewals, pricing, and media rights.
Q: NFT partnerships and revenue?
A: NFTs drive fan engagement and revenue, with existing partnerships like Socios and Coinbase, and potential for further growth as blockchain evolves.
Q: Sports betting revenue cadence?
A: Limited revenue in the quarter due to partial year, but expected to increase as the year progresses, with potential for further growth despite restrictive gaming laws in New York.
Q: Sustainability of per-cap spending growth?
A: Focus on new ideas, brands, and customer experience in F&B and merch to sustain growth, building on pent-up demand and fan passion.
Q: Sports betting data IP revenue?
A: League rights govern stats and IP, but team-level integration and virtual signage offer opportunities for revenue growth.
Q: Sports betting kiosks impact?
A: Hypothetical, but changes in laws and rules could further drive the business, with potential for revenue sharing through lease agreements.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $0.65 | $1.08 | -39.8% | $-1.68 |
| Revenue | $289.6M | $294.0M | -1.5% | $28.8M |
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