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AMIYA Corporation

AMIYA Corporation Q4 FY2024 earnings call

February 14, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12

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Management highlights

  • Overall Financial Performance

    • Total revenue for 2024 fiscal year ended December is 4.767 billion yen, up 33.9% year-over-year; operating profit is 526 million yen, up 44.8% year-over-year; net income is 384 million yen, up 18.2% year-over-year, hitting a new all-time high profit.
    • Operating profit exceeded the mid-term plan forecast by 25.6% for 2024, the second year of the 3-year plan.
    • Contract liabilities (unearned revenue from subscription contracts) reached 1.49 billion yen, up 45.7% year-over-year, with 9 months of full subscription transition adding large growth that will be a sustained source of future cash flow.
    • Selling, general and administrative (SG&A) expenses only grew ~6% year-over-year even as revenue grew over 30%, significantly improving profitability due to R&D cost moderation after the release of new ALog products, and the company's low-cost channel structure leveraging major IT vendors like Hitachi and NEC without high advertising spending.
  • Subscription Transition Updates

    • The company fully transitioned its core ALog security log product to all-subscription by ending perpetual license sales in March 2023, and avoided the projected "subscription dip" in revenue: strong new subscription orders and fast growth of incident response/security consulting emergency support services fully offset the expected decline in one-time license revenue.
    • In Q4 2024, ~90% of new ALog sales are subscription contracts, with only rare exceptions for existing customer additional purchases, so full subscription transition is effectively complete.
    • New KPIs for subscription business show very high retention: the subscription churn rate is 0.7% in Q2 2024 including onboarding trial users, and 0% for customers who started in Q2 2023, compared to a 14% churn rate for the old perpetual license maintenance model. Average monthly subscription price is under 200 thousand yen, with large contracts exceeding 3 million yen per month, often contracted in 5-6 year lump-sum terms.
    • Existing legacy maintenance revenue will decline gradually through 2029 as customers migrate to subscription, with no sudden large drop, while new subscriptions build quickly to form a large recurring revenue base.
  • Strategic Highlights

    • The 2023-2025 mid-term growth strategy targets doubling total revenue and profit, and leverages Amiya's identity as a domestic Japanese cybersecurity tool manufacturer to monetize diverse customer security needs into multiple synergistic businesses. Broad-based security consulting and incident response services grew 3x year-over-year in 2024.
    • The company launched a domestic Japanese cloud network security product for zero trust and SASE, a high-growth market in North America with limited domestic Japanese competition, and 2024 was the first year of this new business.
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Segment performance

  1. Data Security Business: Revenue grew 48.4% year-over-year, segment profit grew 23.1% year-over-year, with a 37% segment profit margin on revenue. Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) for this segment has grown 81% over 2 years, and reached 1.69 billion yen as of the end of 2024. This segment accounts for the majority of Amiya's total revenue growth in 2024. 2. Network Security Business: Revenue grew 25.7% year-over-year, with segment profit growing steadily year-over-year. ARR for this segment is on track to hit the 200% growth target set in the mid-term plan, and currently has an ARR of 1.69 billion yen.
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Guidance

  • The original 2025 fiscal year revenue target of 6 billion yen from the mid-term plan was revised downward slightly to 5.75 billion yen, as subscription revenue accumulation is taking slightly longer than initially projected while profitability is improving faster than expected.
  • The 2025 fiscal year guidance is: 5.75 billion yen revenue, 600 million yen operating profit, 591 million yen ordinary profit, and 425 million yen net income.
  • The 300% 3-year ARR growth target for the data security business remains in place, and current growth is on track to continue the current pace of growth.
  • The company will ramp up full commercial launch of the new SASE product in 2025, and is pursuing strategic partnerships with major carriers and vendors to support this launch.
  • Management expects full substantive profit growth from the subscription transition to begin in 2025 and beyond, after the completion of transition in 2024.
  • Amiya plans to explore capital strategies in 2025 alongside organic subscription growth to support scaling the business.
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Risks

  • The 300% 3-year ARR growth target for the data security segment remains challenging, as subscription sales have been slightly delayed from the original mid-term plan timeline.
    • Transition from legacy perpetual license revenue to recurring subscription revenue creates a temporary dip in near-term top-line growth, and subscription revenue accumulation takes longer to reach full potential than traditional one-time license sales.
    • Demand for cybersecurity products in new market segments like SASE is still emerging in Japan, so successful market penetration is not guaranteed.
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